Re: How big is Euphoria clan
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> >
> >
> > > VB?
> > > Well...
> > > It's about half the size of the QBasic
> community...
> > > And that's *bad*...
> >
> > QBasic has been around for ages, it's an antique..
> > EU is still an infant in comparison..
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Eu is more of a toy language for hobbiests...
> >
> > It's certainly not a toy, but definitely needs
> some refinement..
> >
> >
> > IMO, as far as any interpretter I have seen, EU is
> definitely the best
> > there is..
>
> I`m with you on that one.
Same here.
> >
> > I like the fact that it is so compact, but in the
> opposite, that means a
> > lack of a lot of *features*, but most everything
> can be done with it..
> > those features can be incorporated if you choose
> to code them..
>
> Everything exept Quake 4 , Unreal 3 , Resident Evil
> 37 <and the list goes on
Hahaha, someone finally caught my drift...
It makes it all worth it... ;)
>
> >
> > Some languages give you everything that your heart
> could desire, but
> > they also take forever and a day to learn to use,
> and more often than
> > not, that means you never end up using them, also
> means if and when you
> > do use them, it's that much harder to get it
> right..
>
> I got the basic of C in a day and wrote an exam on
> Brainbench.com and passed
> and got a certificate that enables me to get a job (
> I`m 14 , hehe ) .
Walcome to the club man!
14 when I learned my first coding lang.
6 When I coded my first app (on a C64 in BASICA).
I didn't know what coding was, or what the hell I was
doing, I just thought computers operated that way:
tytpe in a list of commands (ie. basic statements) and
run them.
Never knew I was coding...
People say I am a genius...
I say I'm just a poor street fighter from Belgium that
never got past elementary school...
I'm pretty smart, but don't take orders.
Ya want me to get up every morning and come to
school, listen to your commands, and not get payed?
Yeah right pall, not with this one.
That's why I never got good grades; I was never in
school. I was home coding on my 286 (back in '97!!)
while others were playing Duke Nukem on their
Pentiums, cos I didn't have the money to buy anything
costing more than 100 bucks.
I've being using the same computer at home for years,
a 166.
When I had a job, I had access to powerfull multimedia
computers.
Now, I'm stuck with my old chap.
But hey, that means if I code something and it works
on my computer, and works fast, how will it run on a
P4? At the speed of light?
> >
> > I have VB, and if I'm not trying to code a GUI
> app, which I never do,
> > then I never use it.. hence it sits on my shelf..
>
> I got VB 5 Professional and I never wrote anyting in
> it . What can i say ,
> i`m not into those kinda langs !
Good for you man!
You're like me...
BASICA, QBASIC, maybe for fun once in a while or for
nostalgia purposes, but VB?
Nope...
It's bloatware reproducing itself; ie. your VB apps
will be bloatware aswell.
It's slow, restrictive, ugly, proprietary, non-portale
(at all), etc.
If you say you're a VB coder, I laugh in your face and
write down the url to RapidEuphoria.com on a box of
matches and tell you to talk to me again when you've
become a *real* coder.
For let's face it, Eu's syntax is easy, but that's
about it.
Eu is ultra-highlevel, but also ultra-lowlevel
(poke/peek/call/etc.).
It's even easier to code an app in C than it is in
Euphoria functionality-wise, for C has lots of
libraries you can use.
Eu has some libs aswell, but many are poor...
And C must have millions of libs...
> >
> > The only real drawback to EU is the lack of
> userbase, which would
> > provide a broader spectrum of libraries that I
> wouldn't have to code..
>
> I tried to get people to code in Eu , but all reply
> I got was that they
> think i`m a salesman . Hehe , maybe I should become
> one ..... na , i`ll stay
> with coding .
See, I say Eu is a toy language for hobbiests only for
good reason.
I'm 17 by age but I am also a father, employee and
husband.
I know more than 17 year old "kids" out there.
I know how the world works; and one thing that makes
Eu a toy is the fact that there simply are nojobs out
there for Eu coders.
VB coders? Thousands of jobs in Belgium alone.
C coders? Hundreds of jobs...
Eu coders? What's Eu?
How can Eu solve this?
At first I've said "Make Eu more industrial-strength",
but now I see the advanteges of an Eu To C translator.
Wanna be an employed C coder? But don't know C?
Code in Eu, translate to C, and get a fully working
perfect-app in no-time.
Become famous as your C code is 100% robust and
effective.
But the current E2C translator isn't capable of doing
this...
That's why I'm trying to convince Rob to A. Make it
multiplatform or let others do it. B. Release the
source to ec.lib for the same purpose. C. Make a good
mapping between existing C code and Eu.
And maybe make the code more
readable/smaller/standalone.
Were you hired as a Software Engineer?
A Software Archtect? In C?
Code your program lay-out in Euphoria, translate to C,
and let the people that work beneath you fill in the
gaps.
> To tell you the truth , the only reson i`m on this
> list is because of the
> great people (like you) , the profesional standard
> information i get and a
> bunch of sentimental crap . Dont think to deep about
> it , else its gonna get
> to ya .
Hmm...
We're all flattered ;)
> Read ya later !
> Ferdinand Greyling (DukeFungus)
There goes what might be the next MTS!
A young coder starting out with the right principles
and with a focus on reality (C coding jobs, etc.).
Feel lucky that Eu is more advanced today than when I
started out.
Version 1.5 of Eu wasn't somthing to be proud of, but
today's version, along with the translator, seem to be
usable for large-scale projects, an maybe even making
some money with your apps...
If only Eu had better Game Programming
functionality...
Mike The Spike
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