Re: Object Oriented Programming Update

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David,

Thank you for taking the time to read the file, and thanks for your
comments.  I'm sorry all the verbiage was distracting.  I put most of it at
the bottom of the file in the hopes that it wouldn't be too much of a
bother.  I'll look at it again.  But for now, please allow me to clarify my
position...

My company, Optimum Computing Solutions,  was in the business of selling
PCs and servers until the Compaq/Dell/Gateway squeeze made it too hard
(virtually impossible) to actually make a profit on a sale.  I've been
programming on and off for about 21 years and still enjoy doing it, so I've
decided to  redirect my efforts into the software arena.  What you read in
"oop.txt" was actually my very first attempt at writing a EULA.  All I
really mean for it to say is take the code, play with it, work with it,
have fun with it, learn with it, teach with it, and freely give it to
anybody else that wants to do the same.  If you want to make money with it,
then go ahead and do so, but please share some of the income with me (my
company).  I'm sorry for the confusion.

It seems like most of the people on this mailing list treat coding as a
hobby.  If that's the case, feel free to take my OOP library and have a
great time with it.  I'm sure that when I release the code, you'll find
plenty of things in it interesting and probably more than a few shining
examples of what not to do.  At the very least it has been and will
continue to be a learning experience for me.

As far as your other comments go, I'm not very good at documentation (as
you can tell).  What would you suggest I do to help others get a feel for
what the library is like?  I know a complete example would help, but I
haven't had a chance to write a decent one yet.  I'm also having trouble
thinking of a good app to write to showcase the library.  I would
appreciate any suggestions any of you may have.  Thanks again...

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From:   Cuny, David [SMTP:David.Cuny at DSS.CA.GOV]
Sent:   Monday, July 12, 1999 6:58 PM
To:     EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject:        Re: Object Oriented Programming Update

Joe Otto wrote:

> Well, I'm not getting much feedback from you
> guys any more about my OOP project, so here's
> a little something to chew on ...


The EULA is a bit odd. You require that (1) all files included in the
resulting software package be included, and (2) the source code to the
library be shrouded. These seem to be mutually exclusive goals. You also
use
the words "personal use" and "development" as if they were equivalent, but
it's clear that this isn't your intent.

The documentation says "I'm poor - give me money!" all over the place, from
your e-mail address (netzero), requesting Euphoria dollars, requirement of
payment if used in a real application, and so on. This is a bit
distracting.

More problematic, the documentation fails to give a feel for what the
library is like. No complete examples are given, nor is any explanation of
what "exploit the power of OOP solutions" might mean. After reading through
the documentation, I'm still left wondering why I'd want to add all this
complexity on top of Euphoria. What problem will using this library solve?

Including a cool demo application that demonstrates features difficult to
accomplish without your library would be a good thing.

-- David Cuny
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