Re: Food For Thought

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Euphoria is good enough for me.

If you truely want to do things in Euphoria especially
in Windows, learning how might take some time
but I think its worth the effort to learn how the WinAPI
works

The hardest part for me was accepting this,
feeding and returning strings from structures in the API

here is the solution:

atom = alloc_string(peek_string(struct_pointer)) -- return 

Pete Eberlein wrote an alloc_string and a peek_string
function and made this pretty easy.

Virtually any program you can write in Win in C can be done
in Euphoria. You just have to stick with it, learn it and
apply it. Make note to not try and rely on Win32lib 
but instead try figureing out the MS-SDK material.
Finding your own style or method will make things easy.
This will also make writeing programs that use Win32lib
much faster because you can actually see how the program 
works.

If you dont believe me then continue to do it the hard way
and become frustrated when Win32lib wont do something
that you want it to. Asking questions about a function
in win32lib wont always turn up an answer you're gonna
have to rely and fall back on the ability to look at and
read the SDK. So why not start there first.

I keep hearing that Euphoria is somewhat substandard from
a select few and I completely disagree. Euphoria has
abilities and features I believe are untapped by anyone.

Euman
euman at bellsouth.net



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <president at insight-concepts.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:01
Subject: Re: Food For Thought




Hello SR,

I agree with the following:

SR Wrote:

We come off as whiners sometimes, but the Eu pace of progress is 
slow. We get frustrated. I don't remember when I registered, but it 
was at least a year ago. I'm still waiting for namespaces so that it 
will be feasible to make a modular GUI library. I quit using Eu for a 
long time because I got frustrated waiting for changes, either in the 
language or in the quality of the includes and their documentation. 

--------------------------------Response-----------------------------

I agree with your statement and this is what I have been saying all 
along. Eu definitely needs changes, but the most serious changes 
needs to be made with the Libraries themselves. There are so many 
areas we have not touched with EU.

David/Derek  win32Lib
Judith's         IDE
Thomas        Irregular Windows

and other Libraries are making the language more appealing.  But 
there is so more needed.

We all agree the Namespace issue has to be dealt with. That is the 
one thing everyone has agreed on, but how to implement this is the 
problem.

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