Re: Is Euphoria a Hobby language?
On 24 Nov 2004, at 16:25, Patrick Barnes wrote:
>
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:07:59 -0800, cklester <guest at rapideuphoria.com>
> wrote: >
> posted by: cklester <cklester at yahoo.com> > > sixs wrote: > > > I looked at
> LUA,REBOL, Ruby, and CAml as well as some others. I thought > > Euphoria was
> the
> best pick. Was I wrong? > > In my opinion, no. In my experience, no. > > But
> then, I don't have a CS degree, so what do I know? ;)
>
> Euphoria's biggest flaw is that sometimes you are forced to do things
> in a slow way, because there are limited ways to accomplish task N.
>
> It makes life a lot easier for people learning the language,
> especially as a person learning to program the first time, because
> they don't have to deal with 16 different constructs that seem very
> similar at first.
>
> People who have used the language for a long time, and have used other
> languages, begin to realise that some of the simplicity in Euphoria
> makes it hard to do things. For instance, constructs like continue,
> try/catch, switch(), pointers, structs, unions, OO, are completely
> absent from Euphoria.
>
> I understand that to add some new features to Euphoria would make it
> immensely more powerful, but that it would make Euphoria more
> difficult for new people to learn.
>
> It's true that new features break none of the existing
> functionality... but it does make it harder for people to learn the
> language, even though they can write things exactly the same way,
> because rather than choosing A or B to accomplish task N, they have to
> choose between A, B, C, D, E, F, G!
>
> For those of us who know the language already, it's not an issue.
> Newbies will have a harder time of it though.
>
> Rob's entire pitch is geared towards Newbies. Hell, right next to my
> Gmail window I see this:
> "Download Euphoria
> A powerful programming language even a dummy can learn. By RDS.
> www.rapideuphoria.com"
>
> So yes, I'm afraid that Euphoria will remain a hobby language, because
> that is RDS's target market right now.
>
> I don't like this particularly, I'd like to see Euphoria suitable for
> use in quite advanced applications... but unless there's a *business*
> reason for Rob to do so, nothing will change.
>
>
> What do y'all think of this? Is it a reasonably accurate explanation?
> What can we do to change the target market?
Rather good, but you forgot the Vision RobC Had,, err, had. Eu cannot be
like other languages in the least, period. Good thing Karl didn't have that
problem!
Kat
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