Re: Is Euphoria a Hobby language?

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Patrick Barnes wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:07:59 -0800, cklester <guest at rapideuphoria.com>
> wrote:
> > posted by: cklester <cklester at yahoo.com>
> > sixs wrote:
> > > I looked at LUA,REBOL, Ruby, and CAml as well as some others. I thought
> > > Euphoria was the best pick. Was I wrong?
> > In my opinion, no. In my experience, no.
> > But then, I don't have a CS degree, so what do I know? ;)
> 
> Euphoria's biggest flaw is that sometimes you are forced to do things
> in a slow way, because there are limited ways to accomplish task N.

How could limited options slow things down? I like how somebody else put
it... With Euphoria, I stop worrying about syntax and can concentrate on
the algorithm.

Besides, isn't that a primary gripe about other languages... that there
are too many ways to accomplish one task. That, to me, is inefficient.

> For instance, constructs like continue,
> try/catch, switch(), pointers, structs, unions, OO, are completely
> absent from Euphoria.

I have never had need of try/catch, switch(), etc... (I'm not
saying, however, that I wouldn't use those things... just that I have
programmed this long without them and don't feel a pressing need for them.)
There have been some extensive and professional applications developed
with Euphoria. And how can a programming language be considered a toy
when it's used to serve up a website (or two)?! :)

> So yes, I'm afraid that Euphoria will remain a hobby language, because
> that is RDS's target market right now.

Look at this http://advancedmachinelearning.com/index.html and tell me
Euphoria is a hobby language.

A quick glance through the Archive tells me people are doing very cool
(and professional) things with Euphoria.

Maybe I set the bar too low for what I consider a "professional" language.

> What do y'all think of this? Is it a reasonably accurate explanation?
> What can we do to change the target market?

I suggest we get Euphoria into the classrooms, from highschool to
the university level.

Or, answer this question: Who builds tools for ruby, lua, python, etc? I'm
talking developer tools.

-=ck
"Programming in a state of EUPHORIA."
http://www.cklester.com/euphoria/

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