RE: SS_NOTIFY and mouse clicks

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Derek Parnell wrote:
> 
> 
> posted by: Derek Parnell <ddparnell at bigpond.com>
> 
> Andy Drummond wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Derek Parnell wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > posted by: Derek Parnell <ddparnell at bigpond.com>
> > > 
> > > Tommy Carlier wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Derek Parnell wrote:
> > > > > What's an "unclick" event? A click event is a combination of Mousedown
> > > > > followed by MouseUp, within the double-click period, and within a few
> > > > > pixels of each other.
> > > > 
> > > > Why does it have to be within the double-click period? If I press down
> > > > the mouse button, I wait a second, and release the button without moving
> > > > the mouse, shouldn't that count as a click?
> > > 
> > > Maybe. On things like buttons and menus, things that have a specific 
> > > Microsoft generated click event, the time delay is not significant. But 
> > > on
> > > things like bitmaps, windows, labels etc... it might be.
> > > 
> > > To me the 'concept' of a click is a short-sharp action (relatively 
> > > speaking)
> > > which is different from a mouse up/down event. THat's why I choose to 
> > > implement it this way.
> > > 
> > > > Certain people have heavy fingers, and when they press down a mouse 
> > > > button,
> > > > it's physically tough to lift their heavy finger to release the button.
> > > > 
> > > > I think it is important to make your applications accessible, also for
> > > > people with heavy fingers.
> > > 
> > > Such people already tend to have set their double-click period to a
> > > reasonable length for themselves. 
> > > 
> > > However, I can easily set up Win32lib so that the coder has a choice 
> > > over
> > > this aspect of a click event. It'll be in the next version for you.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Derek Parnell
> > > Melbourne, Australia
> > 
> > Ah well, what I ought to have said is that this application is actually
> > for a touch-screen monitor where the touch screen output looks like
> > mouse-button-down followed a few thinks later by mouse-button-up.
> > I looked at the event & params[] fields when the handler was called
> > and they were zero and null for all clicks.
> 
> It sounds like a terminology issue. Pushing the mouse button and 
> releasing the mouse button are not "clicks". A "click" is the 
> combination
> of the two events. It also sounds lke you are using w32HClick event
> and expecting that to show you information about the mouse state. That
> event was never designed to do that. 
> 
> > Hence the problem.
> > BTW, I'm using Judith's IDE and just set a text field as "Clickable",
> > that's how I got into this problem.  I would use Windows buttons
> > but setting their background colours on an ad-hoc basis is not nice.
> > Besides I can make nice fancy buttons by drawing them myself ;)
> > 
> > So - if the next version of Win32Lib (which is SOOOOOooo useful) gives
> > me the ability to select which mouse events I want that would be great. 
> > So do I hold my breath? Any ideas when it might appear?
> 
> It already has this. Just use the w32HMouse event instead of w32HClick.
> This event gives you the mouse state, including which button was used,
> whether it was a down/up/double-click/move/wheel, its X/Y position,
> plus the state of the Control-Shift-Alt keys at the time. Read the
> docs for more detail.
> 
> procedure Mouse_Field(integer self, integer event, sequence parms)
>   if parms[1] = WM_LBUTTONDOWN then
>       . . . 
>   elsif parms[1] = WM_LBUTTONUP then
>       . . .
>   end if
> end procedure
> setHandler(TextField, w32HMouse, routine_id("Mouse_Field"))
> 

Derek,
You have answered my question - of course, I should have handled
the Mouse events not the Click events ... your code is fine.
Thank you for that - you may now get back to the real problems!

Andy

> -- 
> Derek Parnell
> Melbourne, Australia

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