Re: The fate of Euphoria
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 02:29:42 +0000, Chris Bensler <bensler at nt.net> wrote:
>
> > >At the very least, it seems to have
> > > stopped the various flame wars that were going on...
>
> > And people call me mad 
It also gives a break to RDS - I'm anxious
> > for v2.5 and Robert doesn't need to many problems just now.
>
> That is extremely dissapointing to hear.
> It's submissive attitudes like that, which allows RapidEuphoria to
> continue with their deceptive tactics of 'waiting out the storm'.
> That's dispicable, on both the part of Robert and on the part of people
> who I would normally consider better than that.
>
> It's not a wonder that Robert Craig never listens to his patrons. Why
> should he? All he has to do, is keep quiet for a while, and you guys
> give up. Pathetic.
>
> You know, he never did respond to the include statement issue just as I
> said, other than to basically say it's not going to be fixed.
> You think that is acceptible?!?
>
> And you are looking forward to giving him MORE money so you can further
> enforce his behaviour of complete and utter disregard?
> Shame on all of you!
>
> It's no wonder I'm so hostile on here. I refuse to accept his behaviour,
> and you guys are just as ignorant as he is.
> You know the problems exist, yet you refuse to admit that they are
> there.
>
> I commend you Derek for your efforts with the contest, and general
> community support. But of all people, you know the issues better than I
> do, and set an example for most everyone in the euphoria community. You
> should be more assertive of your opinions.
>
> I'm sure you realize that your ignorance perpetuates the problems of
> euphoria onto not only existing Euphoria users, but all prospective
> users as well. You should also realize that silence is perceived as
> satisfaction.
>
> It's pretty hard to deny that significant issues exist with Euphoria,
> and are NOT BEING ADDRESSED. You would rather sweep it under the rug,
> and let Robert get away with it!
>
> I will continue fighting tooth and nail, because I feel we are being
> BETRAYED by Rapid Deployment Software.
>
> I remember how many years I have spent learning euphoria, only to be
> extremely dissapointed with RDS. The very least I can do with my
> experience, is make sure others, especially new users, know of the
> problems with euphoria.
>
> For what reason does Robert Craig have, to improve Euporia, other than
> to milk more money from us? He certainly doesn't have to address the
> problems. The Euphoria community demonstrates extreme lethargy, and
> furthermore even promotes Rob's behaviour!
>
> How can you make him accountable, if you won't express your opinions?
> How can you justify deceiving new and existing Euphoria users who are
> legitamately unaware of Euphoria's issues, by being silent?
> I consider that kind of silence to be anti-productive and even selfish.
>
> I'm more dissapointed with the lack of activism within the community
> than I am with Rob. Particularly knowledgable people like Phil, and
> Derek, who certainly know of Euphoria's, and more specifically, RDS's
> failings.
>
> I am at the point, where I feel it would be better if Euphoria just
> ceased development and withered quickly, instead of the slow and
> tortuous lack of progress which is inevitably going to end in tragedy
> anyways.
>
> I refuse to give up, if not for my benefit, then for the benefit of
> others, and the fate of Euphoria.
>
> Chris Bensler
> Code is Alchemy
Please excuse me for using weird analogies here. I'm a hobbyist
programmer as well as a hobbyist mechanic.
<analogy Civic=Euphoria Honda=RDS>
Let's say I need a car. My basic requirements are price and
reliability. So I go out and buy a Honda Civic. Its an average-priced
economy car that will get me from A to B without a fuss.
But after I've been using my Honda Civic, I decide its not fast
enough. And I want power windows. And a CD player. And a GOTO syntax
(oops, sorry, wrong car).
Now I have three choices: I can either (A) continue to use my Honda
Civic the way I bought it because there's nothing wrong with how it
works and it does what I need it to do, (B) modify my Honda Civic to
accomodate my needs, which is perfectly reasonable if I have the
proper knowledge, or (C) I go buy another car that suits my new needs.
I do not (D) call Honda and throw a fit beacuse *their* Civic doesn't
meet all my needs, or (E) complain to other Civic owners who are
perfectly happy with their Civics because I'm not happy with mine.
If I'm patient enough, I can (F) call Honda and request they make the
Civic a bit faster, and make power windows and a CD player standard,
but I have to remember that it IS THEIR CIVIC! They make it and if
they don't want to put in an option for any reason, that's their
choice.
</analogy>
Stick that in your tailpipe and smoke it.
~Greg
www.merkur.000k2.com
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