RE: The fate of Euphoria
Andy Serpa wrote:
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> Eu has its problems, but what doesn't? Where is the alternative
> language that has no "issues"? I recognize that Euphoria will not
> be my solution *forever*, possibly due to the rather slow rate of
> growth that you complain about, but at the moment I literally make
> my living using the tools that I developed in Euphoria -- tools
> that would be much more difficult in other languages. And the day
> 2.5 comes out, I will *happily* and *gratefully* register both the
> interpreter, translator, & source code. Euphoria has given me a
> hell of a lot -- I've given Rob a grand total of $30 or so for a
> registered translator. I want Euphoria to improve, but my main
> feeling about it is gratitude...
It's not the fact that Euphoria has it's issues. As you said, every
language does. The difference is that most other authors will try to
meet the demands of it's users. Not try to make the users meet the
demands of the language.
I would gladly pay $100's for Euphoria if I felt that Euphoria was an
acceptable solution to even general programming problems.
Currently, it is not. It struggles to be anything better than a hobbiest
language, or a learning tool. Only with considerable effort is it
possible to create anything significant with Euphoria.
Or else be satified to use Euphoria only for small tasks, and take up
other languages like C or D. That's more than unfortunate, that is
discouraging. Why should I even bother with Euphoria then? Why not just
use C? I can get C for free too.
I used to be grateful, now I'm just disappointed that I supported RDS
and insulted by his obvious lack of action.
It almost all comes down to business tactics I think. Rob plays a very
good politician. If Rob would publicize his intentions, then I would
accept them, knowing in advance what I've got myself into. As it is, he
is selling time shares for Florida swampland, if you get what I mean.
Despite what you may think, my offensive position originates from trying
to actually help RDS. Which is all the more reason why I am so
disgruntled. I can't even HELP him, because Rob won't allow it.
I can't even volunteer to help him. The best I can do, is do my own
thing, and hope he likes it, and adopts it. That's a hell of alot of
work for a chance of slim to none. I've spent 100's, maybe 1000's of
man-hours trying to assist RDS against their best efforts to deter me.
The question of $30 is trivial in comparison to that.
I tried being an advocate for quite a few years, and it was definitely
ineffective. Promoting RDS to continue with their tunnel vision is not
just detrimental to myself, but unfair to others who are not yet aware
of the pending problems of Euphoria.
Of course I could just abandon Euphoria, but as I've said many times, I
LIKE Euphoria, but I also beleive it could be alot better.
I beleive Euphoria has the potential to be one of the best high-level
languages available, given the opportunity.
I could also just accept Eu for what it is, but I beleive that is a huge
disservice to Euphoria and it's users in general.
Chris Bensler
Code is Alchemy
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