OpenEuphoria

Re: v2.5 Opens exw files wayyyy too slow

• Posted by Georg Wrede <georg at iki.fi> Dec 24, 2004
• 571 views

> I like the process of:
>     Edit -> Run,
> Instead of:
>     Edit -> Bind -> Run


> So I buy the binder so that I can now bind everytime I change a file
> before I run it.
> 
> I prefer: Edit - Run
> over: Edit - BIND - Run

Now I understand why Euphoria can be blamed for being a hobbyist
programming language. If the people who use it run the code
after every edit, then they really are hobbyists.

<flame>

In the old days when I had to learn programming, you had to write
long chunks of code, check that the logic and content were right,
and then get a reservation at the terminal room to punch in your
code. We were allowed a maximum of 30min per person per day there.
This was because there were only a half dozen paper terminals,
and we were some 300 students.

That was hardly the change-one-line-and-rerun method. But we 
sure learned to program. Heck, we even had to think in advance!
Actually, to many of us now, sitting at the keyboard writing
code is not Programming. What we call Programming is when you
sit at your desk, drawing data structures or flowcharts or UML
on paper or chalkboard while doing Hard Thinking. Or Think
while driving or in the shower, or walking the dog.

Only when you've done this Programming, you walk to
the computer and punch in the code.

<double flame>

And any nontrivial task gets done sooner and better, and needs
less debugging than with the "try-and-retry" method.

I dare say, one never even becomes a good programmer unless
one separates thinking and typing.

</double flame>

Now, precisely because the target audience of Visual Basic is
the never-get-past-beginner kind of people, VB even checks your 
syntax while writing.

</flame>

The speed of Euphoria is perfectly adequate. Period.

Those who call themselves non-hobbyist programmers have used
and are using compiled languages in addition to Euphoria.
Having got used to them removes the anxiety of a couple of 
seconds' wait.

Try this for a change:

Run 
-> Think -> Think -> Think -> Type 
-> Think -> Think -> Think -> Type 
-> Think -> Think -> Think -> Type 
-> Run

Sure beats Edit -> Run -> Edit -> Run