RE: Euphoria Contests for Source Code

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Kat wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2002, at 21:09, Chris Bensler wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Ray Smith wrote:
> > <SNIP>
> > > Two issues with IRC chatting (or any chatting) ... 
> > > 
> > > 1.  Time differences.
> > 
> > I don't see the relevance of that. We manage fine with the mailing list, 
> > 
> > and it's influenced by the same factor.
> > 
> > 
> > > 2.  Some people don't know how to use IRC prog's or don't have access
> > > to them.
> > 
> > Hence the reason for supplying a java chat client on the RDS site.
> > A java chat client requires no knowledge of online chatting, just enter 
> > a nickname to use, and start typing away.
> 
> I really dispise java chat programs, they always lack a host of user 
> features 
> that everyone wants eventually. Get mirc, pirch, etc,, look at 
> http://www.valinor.sorcery.net/clients/   for a list of irc clients for 
> all OSs.

I strongly agree, but the java client is the quickest and easiest way 
for people unfamiliar with IRC to get connected. Eventually, anyone who 
uses IRC regularly, will migrate to a more suitable client.

I don't like the java clients either, but without one, I would never 
have ended up on a chatline in the first place, to find out that I 
should get a better client.

It should be provided as a gateway to IRC chatting. Not an IRC chat 
client solution.

Requiring that people download an application, just to find out if they 
are interested in the chat line, is not a good plan. Especially when it 
tends to be somewhat difficult to get up and running, even using mIRC. 
(I know it's easy, but you would be amazed at how much time I have 
spent, and how many people I guided through setting up mIRC for a 
specific IRC network)

Also, alot of people aren't interested in downloading programs to be 
able to use a service. I've spent plenty of time trying to convince 
people that java chat SUCKS, and they should get mIRC. They simply 
aren't interested, and would rather struggle with the java chat. 
Especially when they are exploring IRC for the first time.

> As for the net to put an irc channel on, i recommend Sorcerynet, since i 
> am 
> an ircop there. It's smallish, more stable than any other net i've been 
> on, 
> significantly less lag, and an available friendly oper base.
> 
> Kat

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