Re: Knew it wouldn't last.....
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Hi Paul
It's not so bad - the 300 line limit isn't such a killer. I used =
Euphoria for a year and a half without registering. Robert's scheme of =
providing a fully functional package with the debugger crippled for big =
programs is very generous, and I hope quite effective in generating =
sales. It sure worked with me - by the time the 300 line limit became a =
real pain I was hooked on the language and had no choice but to buy.=20
The thing to realize is that the 300 line limit is only on the debugger. =
You can get around it in a couple of legal ways.
a) Don't use the debugger - it's a wonderful convenience, but not =
absolutely necessary.
b) If you're using an unstamped library, maybe try making a copy with a =
new name that has had everything that you don't need discarded. For =
example, with the pcsound.e (which I have not examined) you may be only =
using a couple of functions out of dozens provided. Take those couple =
out of pcsound.e and put them into something like paul.e. Then the =
library won't eat up your 300 lines all by itself.
c) Make bigger programs by writing and testing smaller modules that fit =
in the 300 line limit and then combining them when they are correct into =
a bigger program. You still have a bit of a debugging problem at the end =
of the process, but you have access to the debugger for creation of all =
the modules.
Onwards and upwards
Bye
Martin=20
simulat at intergate.bc.ca
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Paul Kerslake=20
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:45 PM
Subject: Knew it wouldn't last.....
When I downloaded Euhporia and saw the word register, I knew it =
wouldn't last. Not to mention the $29.95 cost is, how shall I say, way =
out of my range. I'm 15 I don't have a summer job and $10 a week isn't =
going to cut it. Not to mention I desperatly need a new CD-ROM which =
will cost me big. 4x don't work.
So, I'm -sigh- not going to order the full version any time soon. I =
really hate to say that. But, I will get it eventually. So some =
questions about the full version:
1. Will the full version somehow increase mr programming skills.
2. Can I make independant .EXE files and send them to my friends.
3. How much is it.
Y'see, if it's $400, a la C++ or visual or whatever, forget it. That's =
insane.=20
I will be back......soon
-Shine on you crazy diamonds......
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Paul</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's not so bad - the 300 line limit isn't such a =
killer. I=20
used Euphoria for a year and a half without registering. Robert's scheme =
of=20
providing a fully functional package with the debugger crippled for big =
programs=20
is very generous, and I hope quite effective in generating sales. It =
sure worked=20
with me - by the time the 300 line limit became a real pain I was hooked =
on the=20
language and had no choice but to buy. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The thing to realize is that the 300 line limit is =
only on the=20
debugger. You can get around it in a couple of legal ways.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>a) Don't use the debugger - it's a wonderful =
convenience, but=20
not absolutely necessary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>b) If you're using an unstamped library, maybe try =
making a=20
copy with a new name that has had everything that you don't need =
discarded. For=20
example, with the pcsound.e (which I have not examined) you may be only =
using a=20
couple of functions out of dozens provided. Take those couple out of =
pcsound.e=20
and put them into something like paul.e. Then the library won't eat up =
your 300=20
lines all by itself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>c) Make bigger programs by writing and testing =
smaller modules=20
that fit in the 300 line limit and then combining them when they are =
correct=20
into a bigger program. You still have a bit of a debugging problem at =
the end of=20
the process, but you have access to the debugger for creation of all the =
modules.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Onwards and upwards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bye<BR>Martin </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dpaulk at UNISERVE.COM href=3D"mailto:paulk at UNISERVE.COM">Paul =
Kerslake</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DEUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU=20
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</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 08, 2000 =
8:45=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Knew it wouldn't =
last.....</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I downloaded Euhporia and saw =
the word=20
register, I knew it wouldn't last. Not to mention the $29.95 cost is, =
how=20
shall I say, way out of my range. I'm 15 I don't have a summer job and =
$10 a=20
week isn't going to cut it. Not to mention I <EM>desperatly need</EM> =
a new=20
CD-ROM which will cost me big. 4x don't work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, I'm -sigh- not going to order the =
full=20
version any time soon. I really hate to say that. But, I will get it=20
eventually. So some questions about the full version:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Will the full version somehow =
increase mr=20
programming skills.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Can I make independant .EXE files =
<EM>and</EM>=20
send them to my friends.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. How much is it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Y'see, if it's $400, a la C++ or =
visual or=20
whatever, forget it. That's insane. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will be back......soon</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Shine on you crazy=20
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