Re: Re: What we really need...
- Posted by Dan Moyer <DANIELMOYER at prodigy.net> Nov 13, 2002
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no, no, not lemmings, then I'd *never* get anything done!!! :) Dan Moyer ----- Original Message ----- From: <mistertrik at hotmail.com> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com> Subject: Re: Re: What we really need... > > I'd love to see lemmings... > > I think that they're still holding on to the copyright for that one though. > The beauty of that game is that it's quite simple to program, it's the > DESIGN of those levels that made them so addictive. Only JUST enough > resources to save enough lemmings, especially in the later levels. > > ===================================================== > .______<-------------------\__ > / _____<--------------------__|=== > ||_ <-------------------/ > \__| Mr Trick > > > >From: david <mpenzi at bellsouth.net> > >Reply-To: EUforum at topica.com > >To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com> > >Subject: Re: Re: What we really need... > >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:34:19 -0500 > > > > > >Re: Kickstart Euphoria? > > > >A good start would be translating abandonware PC games into Euphoria. > >Then redistribute them as freeware after debugging them. Of course, > >getting the author/copyright holder's view would be a good idea. > >Is there any way to make the programs non-system specific, like with JAVA? > >(UGH, I hate JAVA!) > > > > > > From: "Carl W." <euphoria at cyreksoft.yorks.com> > > > Date: 2002/11/12 Tue AM 04:49:37 EST > > > To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com> > > > Subject: Re: What we really need... > > > > > > > > > Irv wrote: > > > > > > > Do we need a 'killer app' to make Euphoria more popular? > > > > I say no. > > > > > > Depends what you mean by killer app. Would that be a standalone > > > super-product or something that allows you to build one a standalone > > > super-product better and faster than using the base language? > > > > > > > No, because most people do not know or care what language their > > > > applications are written in. Would you stop using your favorite and > >most > > > > productive app just because you discovered that it had been written in > > > > VisualWhooPas-2.0? > > > > > > > > Didn't think so. > > > > > > I sometimes make an exception to this if the app seems buggy then I find > >it > > > was written in VB. ;) > > > > > > > What DO we need? > > > > > > A good swift kick? ... Just kidding. > > > > > > > [...] RDS has done a good job of emphasizing Euphoria's strong points: > > > > speed and simplicity, but speed and simplicity apparently aren't > >enough. > > > > > > > Euphoria is smaller and faster [...] Yet perl, python, java and ruby > > > > each have 10, 100, 1000 times as many users as Euphoria. Why? > > > > > > To return to the point I was trying to make at the beginning; I can't > >think > > > of many killer apps in any of the languages you mention. The thing that > > > makes each of them popular is one thing: code base... > > > > > > Perl has arguably the largest online repository of user code on the > >planet. > > > And the built-in text-processing capabilities are astounding. > > > > > > Sun wrote a virtual infinitude of classes for Java - there's so much > > > available there that it seems you shouldn't need to write any original > >code > > > in that language if you can just find the right libraries. > > > > > > Python, like Perl, has so much stuff built into the main language from > >the > > > outset that people gravitate, convinced their job would be easier. > > > > > > Ruby I don't know too much about, but from what I've seen, they started > >out > > > from a small band of fanatics who raved about it everywhere they went > > > online. Sort of a Ruby missionary project. > > > > > > What do I suggest we do? > > > > > > We could adopt all strategies - write top notch libraries, then go forth > >and > > > spread the word of the mighty Object Sequence advertising our libraries > > > along the way. Convert people from the Heathen Otherlanguages! This > >ain't > > > just Snake Oil! > > > > > > Ahem. > > > > > > Or we could be a bit more subtle. > > > > > > Either way, if we want Euphoria to be big (and we should be careful what > >we > > > wish for here) we can't sit around like we are doing. We need to > >motivate. > > > > > > Carl - All hail the Object Sequence. :) > > > > > > > > " '...But this is one thought that has impressed me, Govinda. Wisdom > <snip> > > > > > >