Re: Re: What we really need...

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no, no, not lemmings, then I'd *never* get anything done!!!  :)

Dan Moyer

----- Original Message -----
From: <mistertrik at hotmail.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: Re: What we really need...


>
> I'd love to see lemmings...
>
> I think that they're still holding on to the copyright for that one
though.
> The beauty of that game is that it's quite simple to program, it's the
> DESIGN of those levels that made them so addictive. Only JUST enough
> resources to save enough lemmings, especially in the later levels.
>
> =====================================================
> .______<-------------------\__
> / _____<--------------------__|===
> ||_    <-------------------/
> \__| Mr Trick
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>
> >From: david <mpenzi at bellsouth.net>
> >Reply-To: EUforum at topica.com
> >To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> >Subject: Re: Re: What we really need...
> >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:34:19 -0500
> >
> >
> >Re: Kickstart Euphoria?
> >
> >A good start would be translating abandonware PC games into Euphoria.
> >Then redistribute them as freeware after debugging them.  Of course,
> >getting the author/copyright holder's view would be a good idea.
> >Is there any way to make the programs non-system specific, like with
JAVA?
> >(UGH, I hate JAVA!)
> > >
> > > From: "Carl W." <euphoria at cyreksoft.yorks.com>
> > > Date: 2002/11/12 Tue AM 04:49:37 EST
> > > To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> > > Subject: Re: What we really need...
> > >
> > >
> > > Irv wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do we need a 'killer app' to make Euphoria more popular?
> > > > I say no.
> > >
> > > Depends what you mean by killer app. Would that be a standalone
> > > super-product or something that allows you to build one a standalone
> > > super-product better and faster than using the base language?
> > >
> > > > No, because most people do not know or care what language their
> > > > applications are written in. Would you stop using your favorite and
> >most
> > > > productive app just because you discovered that it had been written
in
> > > > VisualWhooPas-2.0?
> > > >
> > > > Didn't think so.
> > >
> > > I sometimes make an exception to this if the app seems buggy then I
find
> >it
> > > was written in VB. ;)
> > >
> > > > What DO we need?
> > >
> > > A good swift kick? ... Just kidding.
> > >
> > > > [...] RDS has done a good job of emphasizing Euphoria's strong
points:
> > > > speed and simplicity, but speed and simplicity apparently aren't
> >enough.
> > >
> > > > Euphoria is smaller and faster [...] Yet perl, python, java and ruby
> > > > each have 10, 100, 1000 times as many users as Euphoria. Why?
> > >
> > > To return to the point I was trying to make at the beginning; I can't
> >think
> > > of many killer apps in any of the languages you mention. The thing
that
> > > makes each of them popular is one thing: code base...
> > >
> > > Perl has arguably the largest online repository of user code on the
> >planet.
> > > And the built-in text-processing capabilities are astounding.
> > >
> > > Sun wrote a virtual infinitude of classes for Java - there's so much
> > > available there that it seems you shouldn't need to write any original
> >code
> > > in that language if you can just find the right libraries.
> > >
> > > Python, like Perl, has so much stuff built into the main language from
> >the
> > > outset that people gravitate, convinced their job would be easier.
> > >
> > > Ruby I don't know too much about, but from what I've seen, they
started
> >out
> > > from a small band of fanatics who raved about it everywhere they went
> > > online. Sort of a Ruby missionary project.
> > >
> > > What do I suggest we do?
> > >
> > > We could adopt all strategies - write top notch libraries, then go
forth
> >and
> > > spread the word of the mighty Object Sequence advertising our
libraries
> > > along the way. Convert people from the Heathen Otherlanguages! This
> >ain't
> > > just Snake Oil!
> > >
> > > Ahem.
> > >
> > > Or we could be a bit more subtle.
> > >
> > > Either way, if we want Euphoria to be big (and we should be careful
what
> >we
> > > wish for here) we can't sit around like we are doing. We need to
> >motivate.
> > >
> > > Carl - All hail the Object Sequence. :)
> > >
> > >
> >      " '...But this is one thought that has impressed me, Govinda.
Wisdom
> <snip>
>
> >
>
>
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