Re: What we really need...

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On Wednesday 13 November 2002 07:38 am, Pete wrote:
>
> What they have done is really great, but it would pale into
> insignificance if Rob bit the bullet and made (one of)
> wxWindows/FOX/Fltk/paragui/V or even Lua(?) part and parcel of the
> official package. Until such time, claiming that Euphoria runs on
> Linux I fear is met with derision. Who, really, would pay for Euphoria
> on a Linux box when they have Python/Ruby/GTK/blah/blah for free?

Um.. Lua is a small programming language not unlike Euphoria. It has 
no GUI, but there is a GTK wrapper for it. http://luagnome.free.fr
I have tried to make it work, without success so far. Lua itself is very neat.

> One of Euphoria's touted points is cross platform; but without a cross
> platform GUI, who cares?

I submit that a cross-platform GUI is not an important goal. Here's why:

Windows comes with built in GUI controls.
Linux comes with two sets, GTK and QT.

Any cross-platform library is going to have to make a hard choice:

1. Support only those controls and functions that all GUI's have in common, 
thus losing a lot of functionality that makes a given library appealing.

2. Support a third-party GUI library, and live with the problems that 
entails, which include: having to download and install a large library, and 
staying in sync with the third party library, (as if keeping up with Windows 
versions wasn't enough!).

In addition, lots of people use Windows, or GTK, or QT, because they *like* 
the look and feel of those GUIs. Third party GUI's usually look and work 
differently. Perhaps differently enough to turn off some users.

Regards,
Irv

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