Re: Re: What we really need...
- Posted by david <mpenzi at bellsouth.net> Nov 12, 2002
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Re: Kickstart Euphoria? A good start would be translating abandonware PC games into Euphoria. Then redistribute them as freeware after debugging them. Of course, getting the author/copyright holder's view would be a good idea. Is there any way to make the programs non-system specific, like with JAVA? (UGH, I hate JAVA!) > > From: "Carl W." <euphoria at cyreksoft.yorks.com> > Subject: Re: What we really need... > > > Irv wrote: > > > Do we need a 'killer app' to make Euphoria more popular? > > I say no. > > Depends what you mean by killer app. Would that be a standalone > super-product or something that allows you to build one a standalone > super-product better and faster than using the base language? > > > No, because most people do not know or care what language their > > applications are written in. Would you stop using your favorite and most > > productive app just because you discovered that it had been written in > > VisualWhooPas-2.0? > > > > Didn't think so. > > I sometimes make an exception to this if the app seems buggy then I find it > was written in VB. ;) > > > What DO we need? > > A good swift kick? ... Just kidding. > > > [...] RDS has done a good job of emphasizing Euphoria's strong points: > > speed and simplicity, but speed and simplicity apparently aren't enough. > > > Euphoria is smaller and faster [...] Yet perl, python, java and ruby > > each have 10, 100, 1000 times as many users as Euphoria. Why? > > To return to the point I was trying to make at the beginning; I can't think > of many killer apps in any of the languages you mention. The thing that > makes each of them popular is one thing: code base... > > Perl has arguably the largest online repository of user code on the planet. > And the built-in text-processing capabilities are astounding. > > Sun wrote a virtual infinitude of classes for Java - there's so much > available there that it seems you shouldn't need to write any original code > in that language if you can just find the right libraries. > > Python, like Perl, has so much stuff built into the main language from the > outset that people gravitate, convinced their job would be easier. > > Ruby I don't know too much about, but from what I've seen, they started out > from a small band of fanatics who raved about it everywhere they went > online. Sort of a Ruby missionary project. > > What do I suggest we do? > > We could adopt all strategies - write top notch libraries, then go forth and > spread the word of the mighty Object Sequence advertising our libraries > along the way. Convert people from the Heathen Otherlanguages! This ain't > just Snake Oil! > > Ahem. > > Or we could be a bit more subtle. > > Either way, if we want Euphoria to be big (and we should be careful what we > wish for here) we can't sit around like we are doing. We need to motivate. > > Carl - All hail the Object Sequence. :) > > > > " '...But this is one thought that has impressed me, Govinda. Wisdom is not communicable. The wisdom which a wise man tries to communicate always sounds foolish.' 'Are you jesting?' asked Govinda. 'No, I am telling you what I have discovered. Knowledge can be communicated, but not wisdom. One can find it, live it, be fortified by it, do wonders through it, but one cannot communicate and teach it..." - fr. Siddhartha, by Hermann Hesse (1877-1962)