Re: What we really need...
Hello Irv,
To see some iteration to the real situation we can visit :
http://download.com.com/3150-2069-0-1-4.html
and check the Total number of downloads for the different languages
from this site.
Euphoria is *popular* language, and only it is marked as *simple*
and *powerful*.
Rob doesn't care about such the counts, so we do not know
how many downloads was from the own RDS sites for
the Windows/Dos/Linux/FreeBSD versions.
Then, I think some EU people just do their job, write the
programs and just keep the silence about their tools to avoid
extra talking.
There are about 350 known authors in RDS archive and about 350
subscribers on this list, but from March about 23000 programmers
got the Win/Dos *EU version 2.3* just from download.com.
Compare 23000 and 350 please, do you see some the latent
*power* of Euphoria programmers?
We just know nothing about those
much more than 22650 members of EU2.3 community
in 61 registered countries !
Euphoria is Powerful and Popular right Now !
Don't worry be happy !
All we need we'll write in Euphoria! 
We do not need any killers, you are right !
Regards,
Igor Kachan
kinz at peterlink.ru
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> Îò: irv at take.maxleft.com
> Êîìó: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> Òåìà: What we really need...
> Äàòà: 12 íîÿáðÿ 2002 ã. 12:03
>
> Do we need a 'killer app' to make Euphoria more popular?
> I say no.
>
> No, because most people do not know or care what language their
> applications are written in. Would you stop using your favorite and most
> productive app just because you discovered that it had been written in
> VisualWhooPas-2.0?
>
> Didn't think so.
>
> No, because any competent programmer knows that any app can be
> written in any language. What matters is _how easily_ it can be written
> in a given language.
>
> What DO we need?
>
> To make Euphoria more popular among programmers ~ who else is going
> to use it? ~ we need to honestly evaluate where Euphoria excels, and
where
> it fails. RDS has done a good job of emphasizing Euphoria's strong
points:
> speed and simplicity, but speed and simplicity apparently aren't enough.
>
> Consider Perl, Python, Java, Ruby, Rebol.....
> Euphoria is smaller and faster than any of the above.
> Euphoria is more readable than perl or java, and (arguably) python and
ruby
> as well.
>
> Yet perl, python, java and ruby each have 10, 100, 1000 times as many
users
> as Euphoria. Why? If you really expect Euphoria to be more popular,
you'll
> have to be able to answer that question.
>
> Let's see what you think.
> Regards,
> Irv
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