Re: A Human Baby Learns

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On 7 Nov 2002, at 13:29, C. K. Lester wrote:

> 
> > AI does not require the ability to dynamically program itself. That's
> > what the neural net is for.
> 
> Yeah. If you think about it, all we really are is a brain. The body is like a
> vehicle, getting us around to where we want to go, able to process fuel to
> keep
> us alive, etc.
> 
> > You cannot reprogam how you see/taste/touch/hear/smell. These are our
> > basic sensory tools, that we use to get input from our environment.
> 
> What makes a human being able to achieve sentience, whereas other creatures
> (including dogs, cats) are not? Or do they? (I use "sentience" to mean not
> only
> perception and feeling, but self-perception.) What does a human being at birth
> understand? think? perceive? What is it about our hardware that lets us grow
> up
> to be smarter than dolphins?

This is highly relative. Can you communicate 100ft under water with 
squeeks? Can you use your eyes, ears, and squeeks to locate fish in that 
water? Can you determine with the squeeks which echos are the non-
poisonous fish?

> > Think of instinct as our basic set of tools/actions/reactions that we
> > have at our disposal.
> 
> Yes, and we have to have autonomic functions as well.
> 
> Think about a human baby. Left on its own, it will perish. Nurtured, it can
> eventually become a Nobel-prize winning physicist.
> 
> That same human baby has no control over its arms (initially)... 

Well, that is debateable too. I've seen babies a day old raise their heads to 
look at what was making a noise, and complain about harsh lighting. Most 
babies have instinctual control to close their paws around anything put on 
their palms. It's the ability to replace that instinct with the higher (and
slower
and more thought-out) function that we call intelligence.

> so how does it
> learn to control those arms, hands, and fingers, enough to play a composition
> by
> Rachmaninov?!

Rachmaninoff
By generating new functions. Eventually they become subconcious, 
replacing the lack of the function with a working one. Replacing a cheapie 
biologically efficent instinct with one more conducive to self-serving. Learning
new abilities.

Kat

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