Re: The A.I. Project
> I've been sifting through the a.i thoughts weve gotten so far and one
> thing that seems persistent in what you have been arguing is the
simulation
> vs. emulation arguments, or perhaps better termed pre-programmed vs.
instinct
> only programming.
Here's the distinction between the two concepts:
1. simulation - the AI entity exists in a virtual world, getting its input
from and providing output to that virtual world. It knows nothing of the
outside world. This would include our worm in a glass bowl scenario. We can
observe and interact with the AI entity. The key here is that the
environment is simulated!
2. actual - the AI entity exists as code on a PC. Its environment is the PC.
It can obtain input the way the PC obtains input (desktop cam, scanner,
internet, etc.) and can output as the PC can output (printers, screen,
posting to a web site, etc.). The key here is that the environment is
actual.
> I need to know how your
> theories would play out put in a neural net programming perspective.
In both cases, a neural net can function as the AI entity's brain.
> Would this "core instinct programming" approach mesh well with
> neural nets.In other words would your a.i. programming approach
> involve the building of neural nets?
Absolutely. First you need to understand the neural net's capabilities.
Then, you'll want to program a "wrapper" to it- this would be the instinct
layer. The instinct layer would include all instinctual and autonomic
functions.
> In one context,the use of the prime motivator,"or survival instinct",
> was to be depicted as a number,like 10,if we use neural nets,we'll not
> be able to program attributes like the survival instinct in the form
> of numbers,but rather as a series of built up neurons which together
> form a neural network.
Yes, you can use static numbers. The key is, the AI entity won't understand
the mechanism anyway.
Look at human reactions: we know there is a fight or flight response
mechanism, but we can't explain it! What motivates our brain to signal
"fear" when our lives are in jeopardy? What motivates our brain to CARE
about survival?! Our brain functions without us having to understand how it
functions. This might be the problem... unless we can understand how the
brain operates, we'll never be able to create our own creature.
So, what I'm saying is, you could have the survival instinct simply be a
measurement on a scale...
> How do you think we should go at neural network
> programming in the light of say,building up a prime motivator?
Intelligence is built upon instinct.
Instinct is built upon a brain.
The structure of the brain will determine how intelligent the creature will
get.
We have amazingly complex brains which will probably never be successfully
understood or emulated.
>From my observations, humans are highly complex (and that's an
understatement) chemical computers. Worms, on the other hand, along with
most (if not all) of the animal kingdom, are highly complex chemical
*robots* or expert systems. What component do we possess that lets us
achieve sentience/intelligence? Answer that and you might have something...
:)
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