Re: The A.I. Project II
- Posted by tone.skoda at gmx.net
Nov 06, 2002
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Question shouldn't be what type of AI creature but in what type of =
enviroment it will be. I would like to hear some ideas for good AI =
enviroment. Input (sensory information) to AI creature should be simple, =
also output (AI creature's actions, movement). Other creatures around it =
and world can be complex, better if different levels of complexity =
exists of both. It's good if its easily visible when AI creature starts =
behaving intelligent.
Also there has to be possibilty to see different levels of intelligence =
of AI creature in this enviroment, that enviroment allows it.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: dubetyrant at hotmail.com=20
To: EUforum=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:22 PM
Subject: The A.I. Project II
Hi all,
If anyone is interested in contributing to "The Euphoria A.I.
Project" please e-mail this mailing list between now and
November 15,11 p.m. ET. There will probably be many
different approaches to what kind of A.I to create and how
to go about doing it, so we should take a democratic
approach to it at the onset and all throughout the process.
If you have an idea or if you just want to contribute please
write an e-mail here between now and then. I will collect all
of the postings,itemize them,summarize them,and repost
them on Saturday,November 16 at 5 p.m so that we can
vote on which idea we will be implemented.
Note:you do not have to have an original idea as to what
kind of A.I. creature to create in order to vote, just post that
you would like to vote and I'll include your name on my
Saturday posting.Everyone will be able to see the votes
(because it will be voted on via the list) therefore we can
assure it will be clean.
Also note that we will only be voting on what type of A.I.
creature to create at first and nothing else,but dont let
that stop you from writing about how the idea should be
implemented, as that may influence a decision to vote on
what type.
For example,if for instance you think that we should create
a worm for an a.i. subject,briefly state why you think a worm
would be better,and how we should go about implementing it.The =
implementation itself wont be voted on at first,just the
subject,but the extra information will help toward making an
informed decision.
Also note, even if your not the best programmer on the list
don't be afraid to contribute because there are many things
involved in a project like this.There is a certain amount of
research to be done,as well as artwork.I would imagine there would =
also be a large amount of "residual programming" to be done, procedures =
that need to be
created outside the main life cycle loops of the subject.
Also the program needs to be tested,so called beta testing.
And anybody with declared involvement will have a vote.So
really anyone can contribute and will be encouraged to contribute.
After November 15,anyone can contribute,but unless we
hear from you on or before then, you won't have a chance
to present the original premise or vote on the original
premise.
I'll post this e-mail once every other day untill November 15
to make sure everyone's aware of the project.And I will
make sure that ALL of the ideas get posted to vote on.
Best Regards,
Jason Dube
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Question shouldn't be what type of AI =
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for good=20
AI enviroment. Input (sensory information) to AI creature should be =
simple, also=20
output (AI creature's actions, movement). Other creatures around it =
and=20
world can be complex, better if different levels of complexity=20
exists of both. It's good if its easily visible when AI creature =
starts=20
behaving intelligent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also there has to be possibilty to see =
different=20
levels of intelligence of AI creature in this enviroment, that =
enviroment allows=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 06, =
2002 10:22=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> The A.I. Project =
II</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><PRE>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Euphoria =
Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If anyone is interested in =
contributing to "The=20
Euphoria A.I.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Project" please e-mail this mailing =
list between=20
now and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>November 15,11 p.m. ET. There will =
probably be=20
many</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>different approaches to what kind of =
A.I to=20
create and how</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to go about doing it, so we should =
take a=20
democratic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>approach to it at the onset and all =
throughout=20
the process.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> If you have an idea or if you =
just want to=20
contribute please</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>write an e-mail here between now and =
then. I will=20
collect all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of the postings,itemize =
them,summarize them,and=20
repost</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>them on Saturday,November 16 at 5 p.m =
so that we=20
can</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>vote on which idea we will be=20
implemented.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Note:you do not have to have =
an original=20
idea as to what</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>kind of A.I. creature to create in =
order to vote,=20
just post that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you would like to vote and I'll =
include your name=20
on my</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Saturday posting.Everyone will be =
able to see the=20
votes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(because it will be voted on via the =
list)=20
therefore we can</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>assure it will be clean.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Also note that we will only be =
voting on=20
what type of A.I.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>creature to create at first and =
nothing else,but=20
dont let</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that stop you from writing about how =
the idea=20
should be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>implemented, as that may influence a =
decision to=20
vote on</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what type.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> For example,if for instance =
you think that=20
we should create</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a worm for an a.i. subject,briefly =
state why you=20
think a worm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would be better,and how we should go =
about=20
implementing it.The implementation itself wont be voted on at =
first,just=20
the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>subject,but the extra information =
will help=20
toward making an</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>informed decision.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Also note, even if your not =
the best=20
programmer on the list</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>don't be afraid to contribute because =
there are=20
many things</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>involved in a project like this.There =
is a=20
certain amount of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>research to be done,as well as =
artwork.I would=20
imagine there would also be a large amount of "residual programming" =
to be=20
done, procedures that need to be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>created outside the main life cycle =
loops of the=20
subject.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Also the program needs to be =
tested,so=20
called beta testing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And anybody with declared involvement =
will have a=20
vote.So</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>really anyone can contribute and will =
be=20
encouraged to contribute.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> After November 15,anyone can=20
contribute,but unless we</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hear from you on or before then, you =
won't have a=20
chance</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to present the original premise or =
vote on the=20
original</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>premise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I'll post this e-mail once =
every other day=20
untill November 15</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to make sure everyone's aware of =
the=20
project.And I will</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>make sure that ALL of the ideas get =
posted to=20
vote on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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Best Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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Jason Dube</FONT></DIV>
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