Re: AI & Darius Project Thoughts
- Posted by tone.skoda at gmx.net
Nov 05, 2002
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From: "C. K. Lester" <cklester at yahoo.com>
> > For example, to stop a computer from lying, all that is needed
> > is to *not* add the foundation for the lie construct in the program.
>
> Wrong... the AI program will LEARN to lie. It doesn't have to have a
> foundation! If it has a survival instinct (which it must have, I contend),
> then if that survival is ever threatened, and a lie could help it survive,
> then it WILL lie (just like those other intelligent creatures (humans)
:) ).
Ok, how will real AI creature look like: It will be similar to child: it
will take time to learn, it will behave depending in which enviroment it is
raised, by which people. It will have nothing preprogrammed, it will have to
learn everything. It will only learn much faster that humans. That's what
it's all about. Speed.
> What any AI project needs, if it's going to succeed, is FIRST the
> appropriate HARDWARE. Do you have that yet? Can you at least emulate it?
> (That code that lets you share memory could be very helpful for this...)
You don't need to wait for more powerful hardware to start creating your AI
project. Try to make AI program which will behave intelligent in any
enviroment into which it is put. Those specialized programs which do only
one thing, and good, like chess playing, chatter bots, ... are not really
intelligent.
To me it seems like neural nets in some form are they key.
>
> The human brain is a highly complex chemical computer. It takes the
world's
> fastest super computer several hours just to simulate the function of ONE
> neuron (or something like that). And you want to create an artificially
> intelligent creature on a PC? GOOD LUCK!!! ;)
You are wrong that you are blaming too weak hardware for failure of creating
true AI. It's the lack of good ideas from people.
>From what I've read the power of human brain comes from paralel processing
of millions of neurons which are working at the same time.
One neuron is very slow and simple mechanisem and it has been studied much,
its mechanism is well known. All the connections between neurons is what is
really important and that's not studied that much, it can't be studied
because they are too many (billions).
It's like you are looking at machine code of some program: nothing is clear
to you how it works. Even if you look at source code it's difficult to
understand sometimes. Similar is mechanism of brain, only probably even more
complex.
I ve read about some primitive worm C Elegans ( http://elegans.swmed.edu/ )
which has only about 300 neurons and it still isn't known much about how
those neurons work together.
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