Re: Euphoria Windows Installer
Howdy again!
Kat said ...
> I put all non-MS software on D: or E:, things like Textpad, Eu, mirc, Lua, etc
> on D:, extended things like dictionaries and Arachnophilia on E:. This way, if
> windoze trashes C:, as long as the partition info is good, i don't lose the
> other applications. Of course, now i have D: and E: as a separate hds, so it's
> even more reliable. Some software i have refused to install because it
> insisted on C:. With the newer MS OSs, this is even more important, if i
> *must* run win2000 and *must* be online to MS, to register or get bug
> patches, i will yank the other drives first.
Well, at least in the eyes of EWI, this would not be a problem. You could
even attempt to install Euphoria on a floppy disk ... early in the project
somebody had mentioned that a person may actually want to do that. The only
possible fly in the soup there is that you would have to be careful to
select the correct drive on the "Modify Autoexec" form, because the
installer will default to looking for the autoexec.bat file on whatever
drive you installed Euphoria to. So, if you were to install Euphoria on E:,
and your boot partition -- I guess that is the correct term -- is C:, you
would have to select the C: drive in the Modify Autoexec form.
> The oem Eu installer from RDS never did work for me, i had to install it
> manually.
The only problem I had when I transferred Euphoria to my current WinMe
machine was due to the fact that some boneheaded engineer at Micro$oft
decided that the autoexec.bat file should be a hidden system file. I knew
there had to be an autoexec somewhere, and after a while, it dawned on me to
try attrib *.* -h to find it.
> Install everything available. Ask if they wish to retrieve the archives from
> RDS
> online. Show what is happening, keep the user updated, so they don't think it
> has locked itself in a endless loop. If it's all on a CD, install it all. My
> Eu dir
> has 4700 files, 496 folders, and uses 102 megs of hd space. You can't
> reasonably ask the user to use a checklist to decide what to get with nearly
> 500 directories. Maybe a minimal, normal, and maximum dos/windows/linux
> gui/non-gui install selector?
Okay, I guess I have a couple of issues with this. First of all, at this
point, the installer will not be an internet app, mainly because I don't
have a clue about HTTP FTP, and I don't know WAIS GOPHER. I can certainly
add an option at the end of the installation to open up the Euphoria archive
pages, as long as the user has their associations set correctly (since they
undoubtedly got the installer off the Internet, I'm pretty sure they do).
But the rest would be on them. The goal of the installer is to have the
"popular" libraries included -- the one's that are used so much by the
community at large that they might as well be considered standard.
Frankly, at this point the installer could not handle having 500 optional
install items ... to do that, I would need to place the checkboxes in a
pager or something. If that *were* to happen, I would of course include
"Check All"/"Clear All" buttons.
And finally, a show of hands please: how many folks out there have 102M in
their Euphoria folder?? I'm looking at the properties for mine right now,
and my folder is 8.16M, containing 23 folders and 362 files. My point is
that the installer is meant for the average newcomer to the language, and
the average user. I feel that my setup and folder size is much closer to
the average than yours, Kat. This is not a stomp on you at all, dear, just
trying to explain how things look on my side of the fence. 
Something you might like, though, Kat, is the concept of "on-the-fly" data
file creation. This would make the installer an internet application, but
the user would go to a "download" web page, select from all the tools in the
archive, and then the data file would be created while they wait, so to
speak. But this will be many many moons from now, once I've gotten the
knowledge to pull something like that off.
Travis Beaty
Claude, Texas.
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