Re: Cool Game Idea - Anyone want to help?

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> I've decided to take these comments off the Listserv, as i'm a gungho
crackbaby
> about posting my own opinions to many people, as it happens to get flamed
upon
> all the time. I'd rather get it from one person than many :)

Let's just stick to the points, rather than have any flame any one smile

Kat wrote:
> > Then you prolly *luv* the Pokemon craze. With each word carefully chosen
to
> > maximize sales, they appeal to greed and ego. Buy more and save the
world.

No, i live in Holland .. don't notice much of the Pokemon craze actually.
Honestly, I don't even have a clue what it is about precizely .. I did hear
about it .. i did see it .. but no explenaiton as of yet. But my opinions
about marketing were always pretty negative.

> Unfortunatly, Pokemon started out in Japan, so it's no fault of our own
> country's (Nintendo exempt) people that made the Pokemon fad become the
way it
> is.

Japan ? Hmm .. japan is a weird country as well .. hard to understand ?
Anyway ever seen a japanse game show ? In my opinion they are the most sick
and insulting game shows ever.
But maybe they watch it like we watch a good thriller.

> > Be a Trainer (master) and help (enslave) pokemon (who can take care of
> > themselves just fine). When you are tired of them, keep them in
Pokeballs
> > (cages), otherwise you train them (somehow force them to fight each
other).
>
> Good euphemism (Jeez, I _think_ that's the right word) to it. Yet, again,
this
> behavior hasn't come out of the unreality reality of the Pokemon world.
The
> behavior hasn't come to the real world.

Well, train and have them fight has been in many societies a sport for many
of decades.
Come on .. people used to play these games for real.

> > I vote for Norway's (right country?) laws that prohibit all tv marketing
aimed
> > at kids. Kids are demonstrably notsentient, but they are programmable
> > (brainwashable) to a degree. Lets not
> > aim towards a future like that portrayed in Robocop or the violent
videogames
> > kids buy.

Unfortunately most youth is used to commercials, and can see right through
them .. maybe even better than all the grannies, i'm afraid.

> I like how many said it... "Video games don't make people kill people, TV
> doesn't make people kill people, Music, or media (I hold my tongue on that
last
> one), or much of anything else. People kill people."

No its not true. People don't kill people. People kill people back.
People treat each other as they are taught by the world. Proof:

Person A rejects person B. In return person B rejects person A.
What if, in your experience, the world rejects you ?
Lets not have these people control nuclear bombs, ok ?

> I just wish people would stop relying on statistical studies to prove
crap. It's
> all on a individual basis.

Statistics indicate some sort of relation. Maybe even prove a relation
between figures.
You should ask yourself ... why wasn't TV so violent before ? was the choice
made on a different way ?
If violence sells good, and it is only sold *nowadays* .. then it would be
pretty obvious that the videogames, tv, music, etc. are NOT the cause of all
the violence. They too are the result of something else. (of an more and
more violent society, death penaly, zero-tolerance policy, have-havenots,
etc. censhorship .. a NOTHING-GOES society.)

> Example: Littleton shooting. Many claimed that the shooters played FPS's,
> particularly Doom/Quake. They listened to Metal (Many references of
Marilyn
> Manson, Rammstein, and KoRn were made), and they found all their ideas on
the
> internet.

All of this is much more popular in Europe than it is in the US.
We don't have high-school shootings.

> This is humanity... intelligent creatures doing shit to less-so creatures.
There
> is nothing anyone can do about it but not do it yourself. (Which you do. I
> praise you for doing so :)

Lets STOP teaching the youth this, ok ?
If you take care of them, be tolerant, be patient and stimulate their OWN
development than they will follow your example as well and treat you and
each other in the very same way.

> And you can thank the parents for not teaching them what happens when you
hurt
> or kill other beings.

No. The parents could have helped their children .. if they knew what to do
....
But, for the constant comparaision with a dog .. if you have dog .. that is
beaten every day .. you can treat it all you like .. it will be hard to keep
the dog a nice dog. Most likely it will turn into a pretty mean dog.

Why would young humans be any different ?

> I'll tell you why I haven't killed anyone. I was taught, back before I can

As being a youngster myself, we get so much information .. we're pretty
skeptical ..  we filter and check if it's true .. more than you (ever
needed) to in your youth. We are taught to suspect any information ..
everybody and everything is always lying .. from the TV commercials to the
politics.

How can a society claim that violence is wrong while guns are to bought
everywhere ?
Do you really think that my generation takes that crap ? Come on .. we can
see it. We see the guns.
We see how the politicians try to 'kill' each other .. we hear how our
fathers are fighting for a better position.

Your generation made this society .. and this society is making my
generation.

Ralf N.
The Netherlands.

nieuwen at xs4all.nl

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