Re: Protection of our software

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Hi Juergen,

> Hi Igor, you wrote:
> 
>>> From: Juergen Luethje
>>> Sent: 15 nov 2003 y. 18:45
>>>
>>> Hi Igor,
>>>
>>> thanks for your reply. You wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Juergen,
>>>>
>>>>> From: Juergen Luethje
>>>>> Sent: 15 nov 2003 y. 14:52
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> [snipped]
>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I discovered, that a guy in Russia had split
>>>>> the file into two pieces, and distributes the pieces separately!
>>>>> "... as long as ... the file 'mbox100.zip' is distributed
>>>>> unchanged and completely." should be clear enough to state,
>>>>> that this isn't allowed, no?
>>>>
>>>> [snipped]
>>>>
>>>>> I mailed to the guy who I mentioned above:
>>>>> "... you are violating the license ... it is not allowed
>>>>>  to distribute the file in two separate pieces, like you do.
>>>>> Please stop that!"
>>>>>
>>>>> He answered:
>>>>> "I didn't think it is so important. The rule of my server
>>>>> is to distribute program and it sources if included
>>>>> separately."
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>>> Please, let me know the address privately, if you have no protests.
>>>
>>> I'll be happy to do so, thanks. I just didn't like to mention the URL
>>> in public, because that would be kind of advertisement for his website.
>>
>> I was on that site just now, on the separate page about your program
too.
>> This is a good Russian antiwarez site,

> A good antiwarez site, whose webmaster doesn't care for software
> licenses??? I have heard better jokes in my life ...
> What he actually does at the moment, is distributing illegal software!

Why not good, why not antiwarez?
Any webmaster has the right for his own mistakes.

Why illegal? Is it possible to make any damage with
the corrupted Rar archive? I can not unpack that package
now, can only read the content.

But I can go to your site from that site and download
your full package.

There are just mistakes & mistakes.

Let us try to correct the situation. 

>> your personal page on this site has the link with your own site,
> 
> I don't have a personal page on that site, and I don't want to have
> one at all.

Hey, Juergen, if you want to delete your personal page from his site,
let me know please and I'll try to explain to him this your position.

But there is your personal page on that site, where that guy explains
about your very useful program in Russian, gives the link to your site
and only wants to make more users for your program, nothing more.

These his actions are not illegal with your licence too.

> I think you mean the page, where he offers his 
>  illegally mangled version of my software for download.

Ok, what do you want?

Do you want just mbox100.zip on his site?

>> I can download only one package with the licence and the source.
> 
> As I wrote, yesterday he offered the two files 'wcx_mbox_1.0.rar' and
> 'wcx_mbox_1.0_source.rar' for download, instead of the original file
> 'mbox100.zip'.

But now there is only one package -- wcx_mbox_1_0.rar, which contains
mboxdemo.exw, test.mbx, mbox_eng.txt and mbox.wcx files.

> I was again on that site just now, and now I only found the file
> 'wcx_mbox_1.0.rar'.
 
Compare please:

wcx_mbox_1_0.rar  -- me see just now.

wcx_mbox_1.0.rar  -- you see just now.

Do you see that guy is working on his site content?

Let us give him some timeout for his work, Ok ?

> The contents of the file are the same as yesterday,
> that means there is no source code included.
> Where did you see the source code in that file?

I thought mboxdemo.exw is the source code. No?

>> Yes, the package is renamed, but it is due to repacking 
>> with the Rar archiver only, I think.
> 
> It is _not_ the original package, just renamed. But I also don't want
> anyone to distribute my software renamed, and there's no reson to do so.

Why not to rename the archive? Say, that guy whants to mark all stuff,
related to wcx, as wcx_ .

Is it illegal ?

> 
> > There is the pointing to author : Juergen Luethje.
> 
> So what? Mentioning my name on his website doesn't allow 
> him to violate my license.

He wants Russians know about Juergen Luethje 
and his good Euphoria proggy   blink

> 
> > All right, I think.
> 
> Not at all!

What not? At all just can not be wrong.

> 
> <snip>
> 
> > Don't worry be just happy!
> 
> It seems, that this guy doesn't have appropriate respect for other
> people's work. That makes me anything else than happy!!

No, Juergen, without respect you can not have your page 
on good Russian antiwarez site, fact is.

> Fact is, that he is distributing an illegally mangled 
> version of my software!

That guy doesn't know Euphoria well enough to
corrupt your software, I think.

You have no mistakes at all? Yes?

> 
> <snip>
> 
> > Best regards,
> > Igor Kachan
> 
> Thanks again for looking into this, Igor.
> 
> Best regards,
>    Juergen

Best regards,
Igor Kachan
kinz at peterlink.ru

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