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Re: The Great Computer Language Shootout

• Posted by jiri babor <jbabor at paradise.net.nz> Nov 08, 2003
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Clean: http://www.cs.kun.nl/~clean/index.html

14 benchmarks should give you a fair comparison. How did it look?

jiri

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kbochert at copper.net>

> On 8 Nov 2003 at 14:01, jiri babor wrote:
>
> >
> > C. K. Lester wrote:
> > >Jiri, where ya bean? How ya bean?
> >
> > To all sorts of greener pastures: went back to Delphi for any really
serious
> > work, and explored functional languages: Haskell, Caml and Clean (a nice
new
> > version came out last week!).
> Got a URL for Clean?
>
> I also spent a bit of time with Icon (mainly
> > Unicon), Python (very nice, not at all as slow as some people would like
us
> > to believe, especially if you use the fast array module, but, granted, a
bit
> > on the bulky side) and Lua, which is, I think, the nicest free little
> > scripting language around, by far! I have also been playing with Linux
in
> > preparation for the moment Bill pulls the plug on Win98SE, the last OS I
> > bought from those Redmond crooks,  but , unfortunately, only the
commercial
> > Lindows support all the weird hardware combinations I always seem to
finish
> > with...
> >
> > Ray Smith wrote:
> > >There was some discussion on the list a while ago about this.
> > >
> > >It's interesting in the FAQ is this:
> > >
> > >"The language should have most of the following desireable features:
> > >
> >  >  1. Ability to read/write 4K buffers, bypassing standard I/O.
> >  >  2. Process control (i.e. fork()/wait()).
> > >   3. Exceptions.
> > >   4. Regular Expressions (preferably Perl compatible).
> > >   5. Linux Kernel Threads.
> > >   6. Internet Sockets.
> > >   7. Objects.
> > >   8. Ability to print out its own version number.
> > >   9. A module system, and separate compilation of modules (if
> > >compiled).
> > >
> > >I may make some exceptions to the above, but only if I feel like it."
> > >
> > >The "author" is limiting the languages used to include "what he thinks"
> > >is the minimum requirements of a language.
> > >
> > >Euphoria for instance doesn't come close to meeting these requirements.
> >
> > Ray, that's true, but looking at the Win version, its author seems to be
> > much more accommodating. And anyhow, I thought any sort of more
'objective'
> > comparison would be more interesting than the frequently embarrassing
blurb.
> >
> > jiri
> I have implemented 14 of the benchmarks in Bach, which has exceptions,
> objects and regular expressions. The built-in hashtable support was also
very
> important for good results on several tests.
>
>
> ktb