Re: Smiling Faces

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Robert Craig wrote:

> Juergen Luethje wrote:
>> ( The original post showed a little picture instead of "colon dash
>>  right-paren". )
>> Then re-convert it to "colon dash right-paren" for e-mail and RSS,
>> please.
> 
> I'm not changing what's sent through Topica.

I see.

> I'm just converting colon dash right-paren 
> to a smiley picture on the RDS EUforum Web pages.
> This also causes the RSS feed to have a picture
> instead of 3 characters, but Thunderbird RSS handles
> this OK, displaying the picture. I'm not sure about
> other RSS readers - I might have to change something.

What settings are you using in Thunderbird?
I had used Thunderbird 1.0.2 on Windows with the following settings:
- Main menu:
  View > Text of messages > Original HTML
- RSS options:
  [v] Show summary instead of whole page

I just tested it again. When I get the RSS feed
<http://www.listfilter.com/EUforum/messages_full.xml>, 
smiley pictures in messages are displayed correctly for the moment.
But after closing Thunderbird and re-starting it, they are not displayed
any more (the PC is offline then). It then looks like this:
<http://www.rapideuphoria.com/uploads/tb_rss_smiley.png>

As you already wrote (below), Thunderbird can convert colon dash
right-paren to smiley pictures itself. That seems to work also when the
PC is offline.

> I look forward to seeing your new RSS reader.

Thanks. smile
Unfortunately, it will take some time until the first release. This is
not only because the upcoming holidays, but also because I encountered
problems with the XML library EEBAX.
( Thomas Parslow, did you get my mails? Please reply. )

I have started writing my own XML parser now. This seems to be not too
hard, but before a public release, I'll read the XML specification, and
then I'll probably have to apply some changes. smile
I also haven't read an RSS specification until now. smile
All this will take some time.

> I guess you don't handle full HTML. Just text.

Well, it's not a full blown RSS reader, just a RRS-to-mail converter.
It handles full HTML. What the user will see, of course depends on the
mail client (or other program) s/he uses for viewing, and on the chosen
settings.

The program also has the option to convert HTML to plain text, since
this is what many people prefer in e-mail. In this case, any HTML img
tag is converted to the text "[img]".

> Maybe you can convert the smiley URL back to colon dash right-paren.

Interesting idea, thanks!
I could change the HTML-to-text converter, so that instead of "[img]",
the output would be e.g. "[happy.gif]". This is more meaningful anyway.
Additionally, in the section of the INI file that is related to the
concerning RSS feed, there could be a line such as
   happy.gif = smile

[1]

> But first let's see how other RSS readers handle it.

OK. smile
I'm sorry for being a little impatient.

> jxliv7 wrote:
>> One of the things that appeals to me about the Euphoria forum is the
>> maturity.
>> It makes this forum about code seem professional.
>> 
>> I equate smily faces of any sort with newbees and immaturity. They distract
>> from the text and they (if allowed) are overused.
>> 
>> Please, Rob, tell me what good little smiley faces are and how they relate to
>> Euphoria?
> 
> A lot of people already type in colon dash right-paren,
> or something similar. It won't hurt to see a graphical smiley instead.
> It already shows up graphically with some e-mail clients.
> I'm not planning to add any more, except maybe the sad face sad
> 
> I don't think I need to explain the value of emoticons in
> text communication, though the more unusual ones are often lost
> on the majority of the audience.
> 
> As for how a smiley face relates to "Euphoria" - just
> look up "Euphoria" in a dictionary.  smile
> 
> (See - without the emoticon, you'd be really pissed off
> at me, but with the emoticon, you are only mildly pissed off.)


Regards,
   Juergen


[1] More challenging would be to properly implement something like
    the following: smile

            |\      _,,,---,,_
cat.gif =   /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_
           |,4-  ) )-,_..;\ (  `'-'
          '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)
-- 
Have you read a good program lately?

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