Re: Learn DOS or Win32 first?
Graeme writes:
>My, that sounded so impressive I searched the RDS page for an example of
>this perfect clarity. Couldn't find anything. Havn't been round this list
>for a couple of years. Been a bit busy writing a discount matrix/pricing
>system for the company I work for (amoungst other things). When/if I leave
>there may well be a vacancy for an experienced EU programmer (preferably
>one with enough grey-matter to understand someone else's code). The problem
>with this list has always been that there are too many people sitting
>around STROKING their phylosophical navels and not enough people doing the
>actual work. The Euphoria community has always had some good programmers
>and community members. People who's contributions enrich the communal pool,
>either by asking or answering questions, or contributing useful code, and
>it has always had hangers-on who are only there to stroke their own egos by
>spouting off and trying to prove others wrong. SOME of them have even been
>half-decent coders, however they seldom actually contribute anything that
>helps anyone else.
I didn't intend to cause offense to anyone.
Graeme, if you feel I was trying to prove you wrong, as I recall the only
thing I disagreed with was your suggestion that Sperry convert some existing
programs in other languages to Euphoria; I pointed out that as a rank
beginner, he doesn't have any existing programs, etc. My concern and
objective was not "anti-Graeme" in any sense, it was rather "pro-Sperry." If
when I knew virtually nothing about programming, someone had told me that
the way to get started was to convert programs from some other language, I
think I would have felt either confused or disheartened, or both.
I worked with a variety of programmers over a number of years, while I
myself was busily engaged in the art/craft/science on a daily basis. I very
well know the difference between people who can write tons of code quickly
that kinda/sorta works, but no one, including themselves, can modify or
enhance it without completely rewriting it, and people who (nearly as
rapidly) produce code that works dependably and - given a reasonable amount
of background knowledge, as in general familiarity with the application and
its libraries, classes, or whatever - is generally readily understandable to
others. I worked with both types. I definitely prefer the latter, and always
strove to be one myself. I'm extremely confident that I know what I'm
talking about, in this instance.
I did not join this list specifically to do volunteer work for the
community. I am developing an application, a task for which at the moment
Euphoria seems well-suited, and I intend to share whatever generic (vs.
application-specific) code I come up with that may be of interest to others.
However, I see no benefit in doing that prematurely, just to prove myself.
If someone asks questions and I feel I have something to contribute, I
intend to do so, whether I contribute code or philosophy or something
in-between.
However, if you don't want to read what I have to say, by all means turn
that filter on. 8^)
I hope this clarifies!
George
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