Re: Euphoria 4.1 status? Dev team, what's going on?
- Posted by jimcbrown (admin) Dec 24, 2014
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Yeah, like the guy who tried it again recently only to find out that not even "Pass by reference" is supported.
Read again. It is supported (in the stdlib): http://openeuphoria.org/forum/m/125769.wc
So much fun and "easy"!
Though Derek has a point when he implies that PBR is neither fun nor easy: http://openeuphoria.org/forum/m/125774.wc
because the language offers the worst FFI in the history of mankind.
The foreign function interface (dll.e et al) is designed to make it somewhat easy to interface with custom C libraries on your own. Compare with CPython where you have to write an extensive wrapper in C to create a new Python module.
Have fun with peeking and pokeing at manually determined struct offsets.
A valid point, but this is on the TODO list.
In fact, if you don't mind pre-alpha, you can have a taste of a different way today: http://scm.openeuphoria.org/hg/euphoria/shortlog/f0054b3a8f8b
Or the other guy who wrote a UI toolkit which has 64bit issues out of the box
You mean http://openeuphoria.org/forum/m/125800.wc ?
Converting anything low level from 32bit to 64bit is hard. Euphoria 4.1.0 beta already provides new methods to make this transparent (such as peek_pointer() and sizeof() ), so I wouldn't blame this on the FFI. There is a lot of code in the archives that assumes a 32bit world, unfortunately.
Yeah "productive" when you never used anything else to compare it with.
I think you'd be very hard pressed to make the case that Euphoria is less productive than, e.g., C or gasm.
"Programming can be fun and easy". In Euphoria? LOL, you made my day.
Of course. Every tool has its ups and downs. While Euphoria is not perfect, I profess a belief that it has good things about it that make it fun to use.
