Re: Minimalism and Euphoria

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GreenEuphorian said...
Slacker said...

Minimalism is the main reason I like Eu so much. I've been using it since 2000 and have yet to see a programming language which better suits the needs of the casual programmer. This changed somewhat with the eu 4, which is why I'm still using 3.1.1.

At first this seems odd, because one would assume that, in general, new language features make users jump to the newest versions. On the other hand, the addition of new features make a language less minimalistic, and this is non-trivial in languages that aim to be minimalistic. It seems that Euphoria, while still remaining easy to learn and to use, is moving away from the minimalist paradigm. Maybe minimalism was never a primary aim, after all, but just a temporary state of affairs while the language was not fully developed, in the earliest stages.

I am now wondering: are there many users who still prefer using v3 because it is more 'minimalistic'? Or for any other reasons? (e.g. better performance?)

I use Euphoria a lOT at work (a shipping company) for various data conversion utilities. I wanted to use the latest 4.x but the start up is just so _slow_. On my new laptop it would take 20 seconds just to run a win32 (not Winlib32) app. So I am using the euiw.exe dated from Dec 2010 (4.0.0). With it I get 2 seconds.

I dread to think how slow an equivalent Win32lib app would be, even worse for our users that have old computers - perhaps upwards of 2 minutes?

What happened, guys?

Spock

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