Re: Let's be honest: Euphoria is dying

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SDPringle said...
ghaberek said...
coconut said...

I would not encourage a young programmer to learn Euphoria even though I used it a lot in the past.

I think that's the problem right there. Euphoria has always had a lot of potential but very little foothold. We need is more propagation! More evangelism! More exposure! Let's encourage young programmers to use Euphoria. Let's start bringing the language and its tools into the 21st century. Let's get out there and make our voices heard!

-Greg

Many of the problems are not internal to EUPHORIA but external. There is a lack of incentive for developers to continue on the project. This would seem to be also true about Apache and Linux which are going strong. What do these projects have that EUPHORIA doesn't?

Right now, if you want to use EUPHORIA for CGI you need to rent a VPS which is a lot more steep than say a shared hosting service. The market is such that among shared hosting plans, Perl and PHP are everywhere and EUPHORIA is nowhere.

The C+ + programming language is successful because English is successful. It is used in most places. A library for anything will be written first in C or C + +. Either can be used in C + + without a wrapper. EUPHORIA is kind of like Esperanto.

I agree with you. Both languages, Euphoria and Esperanto, share what I would call: The way of simplicity. Euphoria achieves that with the powerful concept of sequence (you can represent everything with it) and Esperanto with its great regularity in various aspects (word formation system, spelling system, ...). Basically, both can be learned or relearned in few hours. People that like one, probably, will like the other (my case). Both are not more widespread for one hand because persons like to follow the others and, on the other hand, because the human (egoic) mind likes complexity. Both have flaws and can be optimised, but are much more simple than other languages. Unfortunately, the 'problem' with both is that once you study them, you see better the unnecessary complexity and waste of time to study other languages.

Saluton!

Fernando

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