Re: ARM and Position Independent Code

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useless_ said...
mattlewis said...
useless_ said...

I think it's a joke that what's essentially a 800Mhz C-64 (with an vastly improved 6502) on a single chip is instead a mental puzzle that's wasting millions of hours of people trying to get *nix and various guis and the most complicated of programming languages installed on it.

Two ARMs and a Xeon walk into a bar...

Matt


But seriously, why not a 100Kbyte bios to talk to the hardware in a minimal way, and to set up defaults and POST sequences, and then put Eu v3 on it behind an olde dos-looking prompt? Build up from there. Everyone trying to force 100's megabytes of different *nix kernals onto it, and the obvious difficulty they are having, is soooo not user-friendly. And they'll repeat it with each weekly re-compile *nix users do. Does no one remember when bios and boot code was 1K bytes? or 16K bytes? or even fit on a 1.44kbyte floppy? or when it worked when you applied power?

useless

Once upon a time there was x86 processor, needing help for video. So developers (e.g. Nokia) created a separate video processor taking the UNREASONABLE load off the x86 processor. Then one day some smart guys discovered that the video processor was actually more powerful than the x86 processor and its mate the Arithmatic processor unit, and they actually went about developing software to work on the video processor - Have you heard of CUDA?
Then came the phone and tablet revolution and the smart guys modified the essentials of a video processor to create the enormously powerful ARM processor, extremely strong on video, all AV, etc. And grandfather Google gave Adroid OS to it too.
Now people are again discovering the power of the Arm processors and are trying to get a proper Linux on it, and Granddad Linus has given Kernel version 3.7 so there would be less problem getting Linux onto these ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL ARM PROCESSORS, shaking the very foundations of Microsoft.

Where does the useless C-64 and olde-dos come into the picture? The users of Arm processor on the various phones and tablets have never heard of the Olde dos or the new dos or the modern Dos and shrink away from the console mode of Linux. They only want graphic interface. so let us get this useless talk out of this thread and put it into a cage called "commodore 64" and BURY it, and then proceed with the Linux version of Euphoria as powerful or more powerful than the x86 version of Euphoria with the enormous graphics power harnessed to a great user experience.

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