Re: Euphoria and Mac OS X

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Porting euphoria to Mac OS X imply that Robert buy a Mac to test it. 
I Agree that Apple made a good move by switching to a BSD based OS and my next
computer will probably be an Apple. (If it was not for professional reasons would
have switch off windows for a long time.)
Concerning euphoria development and RDS future. I've been working with that
language since version 1.2 and I think the language deserve better than what it
gets now.
I don't know the facts about RDS but my guess is that it's not worth the
investment in time and money for Robert to port to Mac OS X.
I don't think it would improve its earning from it.
What kill euphoria is that it is a propriatary language (There is so much good
open source alternatives.) My guess is that if Robert is still working on
euphoria development after those years is not for financials reasons.
Such a qualified professionnal could do a better living by working at something
else as there is high demands for such qualifications.


regards,
Jacques DeschĂȘnes


D. Newhall wrote:
> 
> Robert Craig wrote:
> > 
> > darek wrote:
> > >  Just quick question. Is there any possibility that Euphoria will be
> > >  ported
> > >  to the Intel-based machines running Mc OS X? 
> > 
> > I'm not working on it, and I don't know of anyone who is,
> > but it should be fairly easy for someone with a bit of 
> > C knowledge, and $79.
> >     
> >      <a
> >      href="http://www.rapideuphoria.com/reg.htm">http://www.rapideuphoria.com/reg.htm</a>
> > 
> > It shouldn't require many changes from the Linux/FreeBSD
> > versions of Euphoria.
> > 
> > Regards,
> >    Rob Craig
> >    Rapid Deployment Software
> >    <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>
> 
> Now I (usually) keep my criticisms to Euphoria to as minimal a level as
> possible
> but this is the one "ROB! YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO CHANGE/ADD THIS FEATURE OR
> EUPHORIA WILL *DIE*!!!1" comment that I hold to be absolutely vaild. 
> 
> I LOVE Euphoria.
> 
> I LOVE the Mac.
> 
> Which do I choose?
> 
> I have a Mac, I work for a company that uses a lot of Macs, and once out of
> school I'm working for a company that develops Mac apps. Windows is pretty
> much
> dead to me (I dual boot for a few games and Euphoria).
> 
> The sole reason I will not upgrade to 3.0 is that there's no Mac support and
> I'm changing jobs. I'm completely stuck (willingly and happily) with a Mac for
> both work and pleasure. Currently, I can use Euphoria for scripting at work
> (we use Linux servers) but this time next year the only computer I have will
> be a Mac. Now, yes, I can dual-boot Windows and Mac OS X on my computer (and
> do) but if I'm forced to restart my computer just to use Euphoria than
> good-bye
> Euphoria.
> 
> The breakdown of OS usage goes Windows > Mac > *nix. You support two very
> nice *nixes (Linux and FreeBSD) but adding all desktop and server users of
> those
> OSes still amounts to less than Mac OS X (3.4% versus 2.9%). Why do you
> support
> Linux and BSD but not the more popular OS? Isn't it in your best interest
> commercially
> to port Euphoria to it? If I was arguing that you should port Euphoria to VMS
> then, understandably and rightly so, you could brush me off but I'm arguing
> that the second most popular OS in the world get a single port of a nice
> programming
> language.
> 
> You could also say (like above) that I could buy the source and port it myself
> but I must ask why should I? I don't see how me paying you money so I can work
> for hours porting it to helps me in any way. It's possible to survive without
> Euphoria and it's a commercial language (one doesn't pay Wal-Mart to move into
> their hometown if they think it'd be good for Wal-Mart's buisness do they?).
> I also severely lack the time to embark on such a project since I go to
> college
> and work. If anything went wrong I'd have to analyze the source code figure
> it all out and try to fix it between classes and working. You are busy with
> work too, this is true, however, Euphoria IS your work. Plus, if I had the
> time
> to port a language I would port an open source one instead since it'd involve
> the same amount of work but without me paying $80.
> 
> In summation, I sincerely hope you'll take this into account and work towards
> producing a version of Euphoria for the Mac because otherwise I (and others)
> will be Euphoria-less and neither I nor you I suspect want that.

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