Re: How to make a useful bug report

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eukat said...
jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

which strangely YOU dispute later on . . .

I see no dispute in the quote below.


How good of you. It wasn't below, it was LATER.

Ok, so you are refering to my mistake then, where I switched from thinking this was the cause to doubting it before testing it and realizing it was the cause.

eukat said...
jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

[09:35] <katsmeow-afk> or, i don't see a missing % 
[09:35] <katsmeow-afk> it's missing, ic annot see it 
[09:36] <katsmeow-afk> do you want to fix it am appologise to me, or shall i appologise to me for you? 
[09:36] <iamlost> katsmeow-afk: i'd prefer the later, thank you very much. 

eukat said...

so i appologised to me for you in private, even tho the appology was related to you saying i had installed Eu wrong in this forum.

Where did I say that? I deny saying that. Please give a direct quote.


Um, no, i have spent enough time on this crap.

I can't disagree with that. Still, my position is that I never said you had installed Eu incorrectly, and I'll continue to deny any statement to the contrary.You're mistaken here.

eukat said...


jimcbrown said...
eukat said...

[09:37] <mattlewis> does the bug there fix katsmeow-afk's problem? 
[09:37] <katsmeow-afk> and, why has this not been caught before?!? 
[09:37] <iamlost> mattlewis: i doubt it 
[09:37] <iamlost> mattlewis: based on her PATH, she seems to have bigger issues 
BOOM There, you disregarded my bug report. I had already run the fixed bat file and euc by then, and it completed, apparently properly. But you said i have bigger issues with the install or path.

I didn't disregard it, I just said that I doubted it (based on incomplete information at the time and a lack of understanding on how Windoze deals with percent signs). Which I did admit later on:


"doubt" is "disbelief", that is: you did not believe the fix i had.

1) I discovered it first, so it is my fix. 2) I did have a moment of disbelief when I saw your path and it didn't match what I thought. I had a second moment of disbelief when I tested it out and realized that my conception was wrong.

This is normal, facts get doubted and checked again and again when developing and debugging.

At no point did I doubt you on a personal level. If you had suddenly said I was wrong because you tested it and the fix worked so that really was the bug, I would have believed you. Ok, I would have retested it myself anyways - but that doesn't mean I didn't believe in you.

eukat said...

If you leave out a %, windows will predictably mangle the PATH, *how* it mangles it is irrelavant, just like how Unix treats it is irrelavant.

Sure it is. I expected the PATH to be mangled to C:\Euphoria-4.0.4\bin;%WATCOM\binw;C:\Euphoria-4.0.4\WATCOM\binnt or maybe to C:\Euphoria-4.0.4\bin;WATCOM\binw;C:\Euphoria-4.0.4\WATCOM\binnt

Since it wasn't mangled the way that I expected it to be, I got confused and started doubting things. But then I started to have doubts about that and decided to double check.

eukat said...
jimcbrown said...

Of course, at no point did I disregard your bug, or state that I was disregarding it. That was a false assumption on your part.

You merely didn't believe it.

The sequence of events was:

1) I find the bug, believe that it's the cause of your PATH problems. 2) I see your path, the output doesn't fit what I expect, so I start having doubts. 3) Matt quickly interjects and asks what I think. 4) I then have more doubts, and do a test that shows I was originally correct.

eukat said...
jimcbrown said...

Thanks for disregarding the fact that I pointed out only a single dev or two (as opposed to the entire dev team) will handle the ticket!

Irrelavant, others have freely jumped in on the bashing before.

That's my point: no one else should jump in.

eukat said...
jimcbrown said...

Then why are you on the forums and IRC channel at all?

Wow, what part did you not catch about the start of the topic i started??

I caught everything, thanks. I'm still waiting for an answer to this question.

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