Re: Should %d round?

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Vinoba said...

if the vast majority of citizens and experts felt that the traffic lights should be taken off AND if there also was a demand from the pilots to extinguish the city lights.

Then maybe in that case it would make sense to remove all the traffic lights. But that is obviously not true, and obviously it makes no sense to remove the traffic lights.

And the guy complaining is being nonsensical.

Vinoba said...

In the case of the pot-hole I quoted, both the logical and the practical reasoning require the pot-hole to be repaired.

I agree completely.

Vinoba said...

The comparison or retort would only have relevance...
Your retort therefore, fails a logical examination.
Q.E.D.

You seem to be saying that the comparison fails a logical examination because it fails to have relevance because it's obviously not true that we should remove all the traffic lights to make the sky clear for airplanes.

I am not arguing that the pot-hole should be repaired and the traffic lights should be removed and that %d should round.

I am arguing that the case that %d should round is more like the case of the traffic lights than the case of the pot-hole.

Therefore, I have not made the logic error of a non sequitur. My argument has relevance and passes a logical examination.

Let's go back to the bit of your post that I quoted:

Vinoba said...

if the vast majority of citizens and experts felt that the traffic lights should be taken off AND if there also was a demand from the pilots to extinguish the city lights.

Vast majority of citizens - or in this case users of programming languages - that feel that %d should round? I count two who have stated that they feel this way (maybe three if petelomax makes his views explicit), one of whom argued against the validity of using democracy.

Vast majority of experts who agree? I can't name a single one. Can you?

Demand from the pilots - or in this case the developers of the language? Not a single developer of Euphoria is in favor. We can take from the lesson of other languages such as Python, Perl, Ruby, C, and gawk that many developers of other languages are of the same mind as the Euphorian developers on this issue.

From this I conclude the case of %d rounding is more like the traffic light issue than the pot-hole issue.

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