Re: Euphoria should support/be supported by HaXe through CGI in the future.

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DerekParnell said...
darkborn said...

Well, everything is explained at a title:
Euphoria should (actively) support/be supported by HaXe through CGI in the future.
I mean as a ActionScript (Flash) alternative, and... well you'll figured out what I wanted to say.

Well actually it is not. I do not know what you mean. I've read through the HaXe documentation and still don't get what you are asking for.

Oh, I see.
You are dialectic one. How nice to spare your free time.
Ok, I'll explain for a slow ones:
One of the public promoted features of Euphoria are CGI web based content, or more detailed, "Web-based (CGI, FastCGI and SCGI) programs".
Except this forum and few noble exceptions, THERE ARE NO EUPHORIA DRIVEN SITES WIDE SPREAD OVER WEB.
Which does not mean that Euphoria is not powerful, just the opposite.
On the other hand, there are bunch of AS (flash) based sites, written by script kids, and so on.
Obviously, there are some circumstances which led to this situation.
It could be a) many bucks inserted at popularization of platform, b) easy or effective dev. enviroment, c) else.
a) You got so many millions to promote Euphoria? Oh, lucky you. Buy Adobe, for beginning.
b) You think that Euphoria lacks as a background for CGI? Neither I.
c) Then, you have to move some strategic move. How about Synergy?
Remember: I said "in the future".
With that, I mean when circumstances will be ehm.. good enough. It means when bunch of works which is now "to do" became "done".
The question is: when it will be done (hope not to late)? However, smart one is planning before moment he has to act.
IMHO, CGI & web is the (bright) future of Euphoria; however Euphoria is much more then that.
There are plenty of new talented generations of which are not interested at e.g. DOS, and they didn't even heard about Euphoria. However, "Flash is cool", AS rulz and so on. When they have to pay, they will turn... at haXe, probably. I suppose that haXe will soon have hundreds of sources, and this is where it become interesting: (This is what you cut out) Sources could be re-compiled to many (mostly script "web" based) languages. But why not Euphoria? At least, at the rudimentary, logic level. E.g. if somebody find nice Pacman-clone haXe source, intended to be compiled as AS, he could "translate" it to Euphoria, and improve it as he wants as a "standard" platform program.
On the other hand, Euphoria will become much more desirable if you could translate your own program to became e.g. AS (flash) web-game, through haXe. And what about CGI scripts? Compatibility is remarkable thing. :)
IMHO, CGI possibilities of Euphoria should be expanded, possibly to the vector based active content, but in a way of simplicity.
Conclusion: I think that haXe is NOT a competitor to Euphoria; but it could help in promotion as a "ActionScript (etc) wrapper".

DerekParnell said...
darkborn said...

Oh, SVG (animation) & SMIL support is welcome too.

What do you mean by "support is welcome too"? Are you asking for Euphoria code to output SVG and SMIL data? If so, how do you see that working?

Really, how do you see that working? Except that you have included "svg.e" to output SVG data. You know about some other way to use it?Tell us about it, please.
I was talking hypothetically, and I was certainly not asking you to write the code. I just think that it could be nice to hear opinion of community (before somebody - me? - starts coding).

DerekParnell said...
darkborn said...

Inkscape and MadSwatter are great.

Maybe, but what have they got to do with this message of yours?

Really what? Let's see.

I type this (but you cut it because you're so smart).\\ said...

Oh, SVG (animation) & SMIL support is welcome too.
Inkscape and MadSwatter are great.

SVG stands for scalable vector graphic. SMIL is a way to achieve SVG animation. Both open standard.
Inkscape is the most popular SVG editor. MadSwatter is SVG animation editor. Both open source.

DOES ANYBODY SEE RELATIONS BETWEEN INKSCAPE, SVG, SMIL, MADSWATTER? If so, please help Derek.
The message was about possible relations between Euphoria and haXe, through CGI implemenations. HaXe is well known as a supplement of AS, which is base of Flash vector based CGI (web) platform. However, Flash interpreters are proprietary, not open source.
Possible open source Flash/AS alternatives are haXe and SVG.

Derek, I hope that you're not main developer of Euphoria.

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