2. Re: GPL'd euphoria
> Is there any chance that Euphoria will become GPL software, or a
> GPL'd clone of Euphoria will be created? I believe that one of the
> reason Euphoria isn't highly popular compared to other languages
> (i.e. Perl, Python) is because Euphoria isn't open-source.
>
> Jim Brown
I used to think that GPL'ing Euphoria is the only direction that would
bring Euphoria to the general public. Recently I think I have changed
my mind a bit.
I agree that enthusiasm from inside and outside the Euphoria community
would increase but I still don't know what would be achived by GPL'ing
it.
Yes, a core Euphoria language would be available on more platforms ...
and this would be great. But what happens to the current ports?
Who will develop them? Do we expect Rob to continue Development
of Euphoria and maintenance of the Euphoria web site for no financial
return???
If Rob is completely generous with his time and resources and does continue
to develop Euphoria for no financial return who else will be willing to put
a huge amount of initial learning and long term continued effort to help???
... and all with no financial return!
And how would this combined effort be managed?
Euphoria does have a special quality being fast, small easy to use.
Euphoria does have a number of short commings in respect to large
application development projects. OOP support, not being able to call
a procedure unless the interpreter has passed it previously.
No language is perfect and neither is Euphoria.
You mentioned Perl and Python. I beleive both these languages (and an
ever increasing number of high profile GPL'd languages and tools) have
corporate backing.
My thought here is that Euphoria needs to be commercially useful before
it is GPL'd so that it can be backed by big business to continue
development.
I beleive an idea from the infamous MTS was interesting in that RDS should
consider hiring help / going into partnership with other invidual(s).
This gives the people developing Euphoria financial incentive to improve it.
Anyway ... I could ramble all day!!!
I agree that GPL'ing Euphoria is one alternative ... but not the only one
that
should be considered.
Ray Smith
3. Re: GPL'd euphoria
Jim Brown wrote:
> Is there any chance that Euphoria will become
> GPL software, or a GPL'd clone of Euphoria will
> be created?
Pete Eberlein wrote a clone of Euphoria, and Menno has been maintaining it.
It's quite an impressive bit of work. You can find it at:
http://www.harborside.com/home/x/xseal/euphoria/
I suspect that Menno wouldn't mind other people helping him out with it.
It's a pity to see such fine code gathering dust.
-- David Cuny
4. Re: GPL'd euphoria
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, David Cuny wrote:
> Pete Eberlein wrote a clone of Euphoria, and Menno has been maintaining it.
> It's quite an impressive bit of work. You can find it at:
>
> http://www.harborside.com/home/x/xseal/euphoria/
I'm not so sure - I've been unable to reach Pete's website for a week or
more.
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Regards,
Irv
5. Re: GPL'd euphoria
me too, I think Pete jumped ship/
Euman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irv Mullins" <irvm at ellijay.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: GPL'd euphoria
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, David Cuny wrote:
>
> > Pete Eberlein wrote a clone of Euphoria, and Menno has been maintaining it.
> > It's quite an impressive bit of work. You can find it at:
> >
> > http://www.harborside.com/home/x/xseal/euphoria/
>
> I'm not so sure - I've been unable to reach Pete's website for a week or
> more.
> ------------
> Regards,
> Irv
>
>
>
>
>
>
6. Re: GPL'd euphoria
Irv Mullins wrote:
> I'm not so sure - I've been unable to reach
> Pete's website for a week or more.
Pete is no longer active with Euphoria now that he's employed and has a
social life, but the site is still up and running. I just downloaded Peu
several days ago, and talked to Pete yesterday (via e-mail) about some
questions I had about it.
-- David Cuny
7. Re: GPL'd euphoria
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, David Cuny wrote:
> Irv Mullins wrote:
>
> > I'm not so sure - I've been unable to reach
> > Pete's website for a week or more.
>
> Pete is no longer active with Euphoria now that he's employed and has a
> social life, but the site is still up and running. I just downloaded Peu
> several days ago, and talked to Pete yesterday (via e-mail) about some
> questions I had about it.
Strangely, if I try to connect to http://www.harborside.com, I get a
server not found error after a looong delay.
However, I can connect to http://harborside.com, and to Pete's site at
http://harborside.com/home/x/xseal/euphoria/
Why does dropping the www make it work?
Regards,
Irv
8. Re: GPL'd euphoria
On 14 Apr 2001, at 8:55, Irv Mullins wrote:
> Strangely, if I try to connect to http://www.harborside.com, I get a
> server not found error after a looong delay.
> However, I can connect to http://harborside.com, and to Pete's site at
> http://harborside.com/home/x/xseal/euphoria/
>
> Why does dropping the www make it work?
Different dns lookup place. I expect someone either made a mistake or is
trying to save $5. It doesn't cost me anything to use or not use the "www".
There really isn't any *need* to put "www" in there anyhow.
On 14 Apr 2001, at 13:01, Chris Bensler wrote:
>
> the WWW prefix doesn't work with XOOM members sites either.
The members.xoom.com is a subdomain for xoom, and would most likely
not have any dns listings on a www server. The "www" tells your puter how to
get a dns lookup, no ip#, no connection, server not found.
Kat
9. Re: GPL'd euphoria
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Kat wrote:
> On 14 Apr 2001, at 8:55, Irv Mullins wrote:
> > Why does dropping the www make it work?
>
> Different dns lookup place. I expect someone either made a mistake or is
> trying to save $5. It doesn't cost me anything to use or not use the "www".
> There really isn't any *need* to put "www" in there anyhow.
>
No, but it causes problems with links, for example, the link to Pete's
Euphoria page on RDS' site won't work (from here, anyway) because
it has the www. in it. Most people would assume that these are dead
links.
Regards,
Irv
