1. My program? Malicious?
Here's the rundown on a problem I've had recently:
I wrote a couple programs (they are included)
abcmyfavs will alphabetize the IE favorites
abcmSM will alphabetize the Windows Start Menu.
I have tested both, twice.
But an idiot claimed they were harmful, so Rob took them off the Euphoria
ws.
I now ask the Euphoria community to try out these programs, and then report
their innocent nature to Rob (rds at RapidEuphoria.com)
Sincerely,
Euphoric Phorce - William Heimbigner
icxcnika at hotpop.com
2. Re: My program? Malicious?
Where are they to download?
Take care,
Al
And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!
My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
3. Re: My program? Malicious?
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:43:30 -0500, William Heimbigner
<icxcnika at hotpop.com> wrote:
>abcmyfavs will alphabetize the IE favorites
>abcmSM will alphabetize the Windows Start Menu.
Your program is probably sound, but I wouldn't dare risk it unless I
knew I could reverse/undo it. Call me scaredy cat.
If you document precisely what files it mods, maybe..
But then again alphabetised menus are not my thing.
Regards,
Pete
4. Re: My program? Malicious?
I downloaded the two programs and used the program MEdit to view them.
I DIDNOT run either program.
Why? Because both programs are almost identical -
include reg.ew
atom err
err=regDeleteKey("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Explorer\\MenuOrder\\Start
Menu")
And also there was NO documentation to explain how the objective you claimed for
each program was being accomplished.
What it looked like to me is somebody writing code to intentionally screw up the
Window Registery file.
Good luck in finding people willing to prove your point.
John Davenport
davenicus at earthlink.net
5. Re: My program? Malicious?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Davenport"
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: My program? Malicious?
>
>
> I downloaded the two programs and used the program MEdit to view them.
>
> I DIDNOT run either program.
>
> Why? Because both programs are almost identical -
>
> include reg.ew
> atom err
>
err=regDeleteKey("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVe
rsion\\Explorer\\MenuOrder\\Start Menu")
>
> And also there was NO documentation to explain how the objective you
claimed for each program was being accomplished.
>
> What it looked like to me is somebody writing code to intentionally screw
up the Window Registery file.
> Good luck in finding people willing to prove your point.
>
> John Davenport
Ha ha LOL, I find that funny.
That won't screw up the registry at all.
All it does is delete the registry entries that keep the sort order of your
Start Menu. If you delete it then it will be sorted by the alphabet.
A short VBScript could easily do the same thing.
unkmar
6. Re: My program? Malicious?
> I DIDNOT run either program.
.. interesting though, that:
HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder\Start
Menu\&Programs
.. often *still* lists stuff you've deleted years ago ;)> M$
7. Re: My program? Malicious?
Unkmar wrote:
>
> Ha ha LOL, I find that funny.
> That won't screw up the registry at all.
> All it does is delete the registry entries that keep the sort order of your
> Start Menu. If you delete it then it will be sorted by the alphabet.
> A short VBScript could easily do the same thing.
>
> unkmar
I don't find messing with the Windows Registery funny. Did you run his programs?
I doubt it!
I'm trying to understand what your saying but the message your sending is not
clear or very helpful.
When the STARTMENU KEY in the Registery is deleted and the file updated - then
your saying that the OS rescans the
registery file and looks for error and repairs any possible damage?
In this case the STARTMENU KEY is added back into the Registery and the OS
alphabetized the menu items back in the Registery also?
8. Re: My program? Malicious?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Davenport"
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: My program? Malicious?
Unkmar wrote:
>
> Ha ha LOL, I find that funny.
> That won't screw up the registry at all.
> All it does is delete the registry entries that keep the sort order of
your
> Start Menu. If you delete it then it will be sorted by the alphabet.
> A short VBScript could easily do the same thing.
>
> unkmar
I don't find messing with the Windows Registery funny. Did you run his
programs? I doubt it!
I'm trying to understand what your saying but the message your sending is
not clear or very helpful.
When the STARTMENU KEY in the Registery is deleted and the file updated -
then your saying that the OS rescans the
registery file and looks for error and repairs any possible damage?
In this case the STARTMENU KEY is added back into the Registery and the OS
alphabetized the menu items back in the Registery also?
No,
What I'm saying is that the Start Menu key entries are generated when new
programs are installed to maintain the order of installation instead of
Lexigraphical order.
Those same entries are modifed each time you do a drag & drop to manually
rearrange the items listed. You never have tried to do such a thing.
You also must not have spent any time investigating what all is HIDDEN in
that cute little thing called the registry. I keeps tabs off all kinds of
weird little things.
It pretty much helps you out of your hard drive space by remembering all
kinds of useless crap. Like, Things you installed last year and removed 2
days later.
I knows what where it was installed and all kinds of weird stuff like
that.
Really crappy thing to be quite honest. Most uninstallers are not clean.
They don't do a proper clean up. Leave huge trails. Sorta like
dragging a
bloody body across a white concrete into the bushes to hide it. You might
not be able
to see the body but you sure can see the bloody trail leading to where it
use to be.
Removing that particular entry want hurt your Windows installation at all.
There are a lot more entries that tend to get modified instead of
removed to
FIX given
issues. Interestingly, Many of those very same entries aren't in a clean
install of windows. Look at the mess Winamp or QuickTime leaves behind.
Oh wait, You can't. That registry thing is just too spooky for you.
Sorry,
I don't mean to sound so ... eh, someone else can fill that in. I
don't fill
like it.
Anyhow. I've been using PC's for over 12 years. I've been in the
registry
many of times. I don't claim to know everything about it. I don't
claim to
know much
of anything about it. Know body really knows everything about the
registry.
Not even a single Microsoft employee or CEO or any other. The registry
is to
widely varied in the data it contains for any one person to know about all
of it. Now, I'm sure there is a TEAM of Microsoft employees that,
together,
they could
tell you anything you wanted to know about any entry in the registry.
Many
of those answers might be. That entry was made by a 3rd party company and
we
don't know what that Software does. :P
Um, sorry, I didn't have time to write a short message so I wrote a long
one. :)
unkmar
