1. small password app?

Hi,

I'm familiar with programming, but I don't know much
about Euphoria.  I want to build a tiny application, and
I'd like to try Euphoria.

My plan is to build a very simple, basic app to password
protect a Win 95/98 machine.  They have "login" input boxes
but the user can just click 'Cancel' to by-pass the 
security.  Maybe there's ways around this but I can't
get it to work.

Here's what I'm thinking:
- build a little app, and make it a stand-alone executable
- when Windows is started, run the app in Startup 
- a modal 'input box' type object would appear, and prompt for
  a password.  If the user enters the password correctly, the
  object disappears, and Windows continues startup.
- (This might be the tricky part)....If the user can't get the
  password in 5 tries, the object disappears, and Windows 
  shuts down (or even re-starts or closes all programs)
- Alternatively, the input box could just keep popping up until
  the user gets the password, as the password will be stored
  away from this workstation.

The computer this will be used on is very ordinarily set-up, there's
no multiple boots, multiple users, multiple profiles, etc.

Has something like this been built?  If not, is this a feasible idea?
(i.e. does Euphoria support 'input boxes'?)

Thanks very much for any ideas or advice!

DB

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2. Re: small password app?

http://pcbuyersguide.com/solutions/security/Win95+98-policies.htm

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3. Re: small password app?

DB wrote:

1. I have not read your entire message.
2. There are ways around the cancel button in Win9x.

Read up on setting policies on Win9x it can be set
to where you can't bypass by pressing Cancel.

Maybe someone else will expand on this.  I'm currently
at work.

	Lucius L. Hilley III - Unkmar


> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm familiar with programming, but I don't know much
> about Euphoria.  I want to build a tiny application, and
> I'd like to try Euphoria.
> 
> My plan is to build a very simple, basic app to password
> protect a Win 95/98 machine.  They have "login" input boxes
> but the user can just click 'Cancel' to by-pass the 
> security.  Maybe there's ways around this but I can't
> get it to work.
> 
> Here's what I'm thinking:
> - build a little app, and make it a stand-alone executable
> - when Windows is started, run the app in Startup 
> - a modal 'input box' type object would appear, and prompt for
>   a password.  If the user enters the password correctly, the
>   object disappears, and Windows continues startup.
> - (This might be the tricky part)....If the user can't get the
>   password in 5 tries, the object disappears, and Windows 
>   shuts down (or even re-starts or closes all programs)
> - Alternatively, the input box could just keep popping up until
>   the user gets the password, as the password will be stored
>   away from this workstation.
> 
> The computer this will be used on is very ordinarily set-up, there's
> no multiple boots, multiple users, multiple profiles, etc.
> 
> Has something like this been built?  If not, is this a feasible idea?
> (i.e. does Euphoria support 'input boxes'?)
> 
> Thanks very much for any ideas or advice!
> 
> DB
>

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4. Re: small password app?

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Subject: small password app?=0D
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Hi,=0D
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I'm familiar with programming, but I don't know much=0D
about Euphoria. I want to build a tiny application, and=0D
I'd like to try Euphoria.=0D
 =0D
I am new to Euphoria also and I have asked many questions and have always
got a fast polite response.  Euphoria has about any kind of input box you
want.  You should be able to see several different kinds in the examples
that comes with Euphoria and in the download section of their web page.  =
I
have found "rundemos.exw" very helpful.  I would think the bigger problem
would be a way to store the password list in some type of encripted forma=
t.=20
I've done something similar in basic just by adding a key to the characte=
rs
and subtracting it again when you do the compare.  I'm sure there are muc=
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more sophisticated ways to do it, but that has been sufficent security fo=
r
my apps.  Euphoria has a database system that you can download and build
apps for.  You can also download the compiler which will give you an .exe
program from your Euphoria .exw source code.=0D
 =0D
My plan is to build a very simple, basic app to password=0D
protect a Win 95/98 machine. They have "login" input boxes=0D
but the user can just click 'Cancel' to by-pass the =0D
security. Maybe there's ways around this but I can't=0D
get it to work.=0D
 =0D
Here's what I'm thinking:=0D
- build a little app, and make it a stand-alone executable=0D
- when Windows is started, run the app in Startup =0D
- a modal 'input box' type object would appear, and prompt for=0D
a password. If the user enters the password correctly, the=0D
object disappears, and Windows continues startup.=0D
- (This might be the tricky part)....If the user can't get the=0D
password in 5 tries, the object disappears, and Windows =0D
shuts down (or even re-starts or closes all programs)=0D
- Alternatively, the input box could just keep popping up until=0D
the user gets the password, as the password will be stored=0D
away from this workstation.=0D
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The computer this will be used on is very ordinarily set-up, there's=0D
no multiple boots, multiple users, multiple profiles, etc.=0D
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Has something like this been built? If not, is this a feasible idea?=0D
(i.e. does Euphoria support 'input boxes'?)=0D
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Thanks very much for any ideas or advice!=0D
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5. Re: small password app?

1.  I believe startup spawns applications and keeps running.  Windows would=
 come up behind your window which could simply be moved to one side.
2.  Ctl-Alt-Del will bring up the task manager.  From there it would be=
 very easy to simply kill the Euphoria application.

You can use the policy editor as mentioned in another post, but an easier=
 solution is to utilize the bootup password in the computer.  Without the=
 password, no one will be able to even boot up into windows, or even boot=
 up on a floppy disk.

Louis.

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On 10/17/2003 at 2:56 PM DB wrote:

>
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm familiar with programming, but I don't know much
>about Euphoria.  I want to build a tiny application, and
>I'd like to try Euphoria.
>
>My plan is to build a very simple, basic app to password
>protect a Win 95/98 machine.  They have "login" input boxes
>but the user can just click 'Cancel' to by-pass the 
>security.  Maybe there's ways around this but I can't
>get it to work.
>
>Here's what I'm thinking:
>- build a little app, and make it a stand-alone executable
>- when Windows is started, run the app in Startup 
>- a modal 'input box' type object would appear, and prompt for
>  a password.  If the user enters the password correctly, the
>  object disappears, and Windows continues startup.
>- (This might be the tricky part)....If the user can't get the
>  password in 5 tries, the object disappears, and Windows 
>  shuts down (or even re-starts or closes all programs)
>- Alternatively, the input box could just keep popping up until
>  the user gets the password, as the password will be stored
>  away from this workstation.
>
>The computer this will be used on is very ordinarily set-up, there's
>no multiple boots, multiple users, multiple profiles, etc.
>
>Has something like this been built?  If not, is this a feasible idea?
>(i.e. does Euphoria support 'input boxes'?)
>
>Thanks very much for any ideas or advice!
>
>DB
>
>
>
>TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE!

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6. Re: small password app?

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:50:06 +0000, DB <dbarrett_4riders at yahoo.ca>
wrote:

>It's amazing that a modern-day, mass-produced operating system 
>requires such arcane work-arounds for a very basic and common
>requirement.

Tell me about it. I've written getDefaultPrinterName() in five
completely different ways to get it to work on various windows
flavours.

Pete

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