1. Introduction and beginner help

Greetings all, 

  I just stumbled upon EUphoria while searching for an easier way
to do web development, I thought I would take a moment and, forgive me
for being off topic, introduce myself.

  I am a college student in NJ, and with several possible start-up companies
on the horizon, I am delving into alternate programming solutions.

I was wondering if anyone could point me in a good direction for web
  development,
or circuit analysis/circuit emulation done with EUph.

Thanks everyone in advance, 

~~Matt

    "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
     overwhelmed by the tribe.  If you try it, you will be lonely
     often, and sometimes frightened.  But no price is too high to
     pay for the privilege of owning yourself."  -Nietzsche

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2. Re: Introduction and beginner help

Matt Vance wrote:
> 
> Greetings all, 
> 
>   I just stumbled upon EUphoria while searching for an easier way
> to do web development, I thought I would take a moment and, forgive me
> for being off topic, introduce myself.
> 
>   I am a college student in NJ, and with several possible start-up companies
> on the horizon, I am delving into alternate programming solutions.
> 
>   I was wondering if anyone could point me in a good direction for web
>   development,
> or circuit analysis/circuit emulation done with EUph.
> 
> Thanks everyone in advance, 
> 
> ~~Matt
> 
>     "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
>      overwhelmed by the tribe.  If you try it, you will be lonely
>      often, and sometimes frightened.  But no price is too high to
>      pay for the privilege of owning yourself."  -Nietzsche

I started circuit analysis program with Euphoria.

I started out drawinng little ground symbals.

And then Battery symbals.

And a Single throw Double pole switch.

And a Double throw Single pole switch.

etc...

But then I decided that commercial software would be better suited
for this purpose.

I could be done in Euphoria If you had alot of time on your hands.

As for web page design I have not done any of that with euphoria.

There's alot of stuff in the archives.

http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=web


Don Cole

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3. Re: Introduction and beginner help

Matt Vance wrote:
> 
> Greetings all, 
> 
>   I just stumbled upon EUphoria while searching for an easier way
> to do web development, I thought I would take a moment and, forgive me
> for being off topic, introduce myself.
> 
>   I am a college student in NJ, and with several possible start-up companies
> on the horizon, I am delving into alternate programming solutions.
> 
>   I was wondering if anyone could point me in a good direction for web
>   development,
> or circuit analysis/circuit emulation done with EUph.
> 
> Thanks everyone in advance, 
> 
> ~~Matt
> 
>     "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
>      overwhelmed by the tribe.  If you try it, you will be lonely
>      often, and sometimes frightened.  But no price is too high to
>      pay for the privilege of owning yourself."  -Nietzsche

Hi there Matt,


I thought that was you :)  Welcome to the forum.

In any case, i've done lots of circuit analysis using Euphoria but
never finished my general purpose circuit analysis program because
there was too much commercial stuff to be found out there that did
'almost' everything so i started using that instead.  Aside from that,
i still do my own analysis using Euphoria when the commercial stuff
doesnt like to work (esp with certain classes of circuits) but
it's mostly raw state vector differential equation solving, more
or less, and certain shortcuts i've learned from experience...which
wouldnt be that good for a general analysis program where you want
just about anything solved after drawing in the schematic.

You'll find several Windows libraries in the archives, including
my own called "WinClass" which is set up something like C++ (but
without all the fuss).  There's also the popular WinLib, which is
set up more like C.
WinClass allows you to create and modify things to fit your own
personal taste much quicker than WinLib, but WinLib is a bit more
complete at the moment and more people use it.
There's countless other useful user contributed files in the archives...
you should have a look there.
There's also many people here who like to help others learn more
about this interesting language.


Take care,
Al


And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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4. Re: Introduction and beginner help

Al Getz wrote:
> 
> Matt Vance wrote:
> > 
> > Greetings all, 
                        [edit] quote edited for length
> 
> Hi there Matt,
> 
> 
> I thought that was you :)  Welcome to the forum.
> 
> In any case, i've done lots of circuit analysis using Euphoria but
> never finished my general purpose circuit analysis program because
> there was too much commercial stuff to be found out there that did
> 'almost' everything so i started using that instead.  Aside from that,
> i still do my own analysis using Euphoria when the commercial stuff
> doesnt like to work (esp with certain classes of circuits) but
> it's mostly raw state vector differential equation solving, more
> or less, and certain shortcuts i've learned from experience...which
> wouldnt be that good for a general analysis program where you want
> just about anything solved after drawing in the schematic.
> 
> You'll find several Windows libraries in the archives, including
> my own called "WinClass" which is set up something like C++ (but
> without all the fuss).  There's also the popular WinLib, which is
> set up more like C.
> WinClass allows you to create and modify things to fit your own
> personal taste much quicker than WinLib, but WinLib is a bit more
> complete at the moment and more people use it.
> There's countless other useful user contributed files in the archives...
> you should have a look there.
> There's also many people here who like to help others learn more
> about this interesting language.
> 
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> 
> My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

Hey Al,

 [ot]Never see you online, heh. How have you been? Still in the same place?

Im officially anti-commercial.  I'd rather take the time and actually
make the program do what I want, then deal with switching between various
programs that may or may not actually do what I want them to do.

Also, if you have ever looked at the source code for a "specialized" piece
of commercial programming, the code tends to be very bloated and unorganized,
a problem mostly associated with having 40+ coders working on it in shifts.

I'd be very interested to look at what source you have done for your
circuit analysis program.

As for web dev, I suppose it would be interesting to write server software
for EUphoria much like Tomcat, that is, assuming nothing of that sort exists
already.  Ill dig through the archives and documentation in any case.

Regards,
 ~~Matt

    "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
     overwhelmed by the tribe.  If you try it, you will be lonely
     often, and sometimes frightened.  But no price is too high to
     pay for the privilege of owning yourself."  -Nietzsche

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5. Re: Introduction and beginner help

Matt Vance wrote:
> 
> Al Getz wrote:
> > 
> > Matt Vance wrote:
> > > 
> > > Greetings all, 
>                         [edit] quote edited for length
> > 
> > Hi there Matt,
> > 
> > 
> > I thought that was you :)  Welcome to the forum.
> > 
> > In any case, i've done lots of circuit analysis using Euphoria but
> > never finished my general purpose circuit analysis program because
> > there was too much commercial stuff to be found out there that did
> > 'almost' everything so i started using that instead.  Aside from that,
> > i still do my own analysis using Euphoria when the commercial stuff
> > doesnt like to work (esp with certain classes of circuits) but
> > it's mostly raw state vector differential equation solving, more
> > or less, and certain shortcuts i've learned from experience...which
> > wouldnt be that good for a general analysis program where you want
> > just about anything solved after drawing in the schematic.
> > 
> > You'll find several Windows libraries in the archives, including
> > my own called "WinClass" which is set up something like C++ (but
> > without all the fuss).  There's also the popular WinLib, which is
> > set up more like C.
> > WinClass allows you to create and modify things to fit your own
> > personal taste much quicker than WinLib, but WinLib is a bit more
> > complete at the moment and more people use it.
> > There's countless other useful user contributed files in the archives...
> > you should have a look there.
> > There's also many people here who like to help others learn more
> > about this interesting language.
> > 
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> > 
> > My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
> 
> Hey Al,
> 
>  [ot]Never see you online, heh. How have you been? Still in the same place?
> 
> Im officially anti-commercial.  I'd rather take the time and actually
> make the program do what I want, then deal with switching between various
> programs that may or may not actually do what I want them to do.
> 
> Also, if you have ever looked at the source code for a "specialized" piece
> of commercial programming, the code tends to be very bloated and unorganized,
> a problem mostly associated with having 40+ coders working on it in shifts.
> 
> I'd be very interested to look at what source you have done for your
> circuit analysis program.
> 
> As for web dev, I suppose it would be interesting to write server software
> for EUphoria much like Tomcat, that is, assuming nothing of that sort exists
> already.  Ill dig through the archives and documentation in any case.
> 
> Regards,
>  ~~Matt
> 
>     "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
>      overwhelmed by the tribe.  If you try it, you will be lonely
>      often, and sometimes frightened.  But no price is too high to
>      pay for the privilege of owning yourself."  -Nietzsche

Hi again Matt,

I dont get online that much anymore except to post on Forums like
this, and a few electronic oriented sites (circuit design).  If
you're interested in circuit design i'll send you a few links.

> Im officially anti-commercial.  I'd rather take the time and actually
> make the program do what I want, then deal with switching between various
> programs that may or may not actually do what I want them to do.

Geeze, that's why i started programming too he he smile  Just cant
find the programs i want to do what i need to be done.

I'll try to dig up some of my old circuit software...see what i can find.

Sorry i havent done much web dev either...wanted to make a browser in
Euphoria but havent got around to even starting it.  Any ideas here?


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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6. Re: Introduction and beginner help

Al Getz wrote:
> 
> I dont get online that much anymore except to post on Forums like
> this, and a few electronic oriented sites (circuit design).  If
> you're interested in circuit design i'll send you a few links.
> 
> I'll try to dig up some of my old circuit software...see what i can find.

Al:

  There are other users on this forum that are inerested in
  electronics including myself. I would be interested in seeing
  electronic projects based on Euphoria programming. So I
  would welcome learning how to do circuit design using Euphoria.
  I've been working with electronics and computers for about
  50 years.   

Bernie

My files in archive:
WMOTOR, XMOTOR, W32ENGIN, MIXEDLIB, EU_ENGIN, WIN32ERU, WIN32API 

Can be downloaded here:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan

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7. Re: Introduction and beginner help

Bernie Ryan wrote:
> 
> Al Getz wrote:
> > 
> > I dont get online that much anymore except to post on Forums like
> > this, and a few electronic oriented sites (circuit design).  If
> > you're interested in circuit design i'll send you a few links.
> > 
> > I'll try to dig up some of my old circuit software...see what i can find.
> 
> Al:
> 
>   There are other users on this forum that are inerested in
>   electronics including myself. I would be interested in seeing
>   electronic projects based on Euphoria programming. So I
>   would welcome learning how to do circuit design using Euphoria.
>   I've been working with electronics and computers for about
>   50 years.   
> 
> Bernie
> 
> My files in archive:
> WMOTOR, XMOTOR, W32ENGIN, MIXEDLIB, EU_ENGIN, WIN32ERU, WIN32API 
> 
> Can be downloaded here:
> <a
> href="http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan">http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan</a>

Hi there Bernie,


Oh that's interesting...there seem to be quite a few people involved
with Eu that are also more or less into some sort of electronic
circuits.  Perhaps i should try to come up with something to start with,
like a basic program.  Now that i think about it, i think my old stuff
is in QBASIC <insert very loud chuckle> except for stuff like
inductor design, which is in Euphoria.  I have to wonder how many people
here are interested in doing their own inductor design?  Very useful
if you also design power supply converter circuits or need a special
filter circuit.  On the other hand, there are plenty of commercial
inductors available on sites like Digikey, etc., so unless you need
rock bottom prices that you can achieve by winding your own...

Slightly off topic, im giving (or was giving) an EE course on another
site too.  When we first started off we had some 50 students following
the course, but when we got to simultaneous equations most of them
dropped off.  As of today there's only one student (that i know of)
left :(  I stopped adding lessons because of this.
It's a shame because i know there are a lot of people who visit that
site often who wanted to
be able to design their own converter circuits and who wanted to be
able to understand exactly how they work.


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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