1. C'RAP Re: New Programming Language Being Developed!!
let us no when ya need someone to beta test, (GBDK...I'm all ears)
Swayze
mswayze at truswood.com
kswayze at bellsouth.net
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2. Re: C'RAP Re: New Programming Language Being Developed!!
NP man!
Nice to see a GBDK coder on this list.
Only the Pascal Felber editions of GBDK are supported,
though.
The new ones by Michael <insert last name> use SDCC
with a fake LCC frontend.
SDCC does not fully support the ANSI C standard.
For the record,
I am doing the C'RAP GBDK output code since PlayDude
can't code for the GB.
So any suggestions after the first release of the
translator are appreciated too.
C'Rap programs run pretty fast on the GB/GBC using
C'Rap To C.
The smallest variables are long longs, ie. 32 bit
ints.
But when you create an integer wich stays smaller than
number 255, it will be implemnetd as a GBDK 'unsigned
int' (= 1 byte).
They run without too much limitations eighter.
Only things not supported in C'RAP on the GB are:
file i/o, +4bit sounds.
SVGA graphics are supported using the HiColor hack,
and APA graphics using Jeff Fieldings' APA graphics
lib.
The rest of the C'RAP runtime routines are implemnted
using the GBDK/ANSI C library.
ROM bank switching is automatic, too.
I might be able to get the first release ready by
tomorrow, maybe even in about 8 hours.
Bill allready did most of the work before I decided to
help him out with the project.
You can be the main Beta Tester for Gameboy, then ;p
Get your name in the credits :p
Later man!
Mike The Spike
--- Mike Swayze <mswayze at TRUSWOOD.COM> wrote:
> let us no when ya need someone to beta test,
> (GBDK...I'm all ears)
>
> Swayze
> mswayze at truswood.com
> kswayze at bellsouth.net
>
>
>
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3. Re: C'RAP Re: New Programming Language Being Developed!!
Mike,
I draw triangles for a livin man, and am just gettin into 'hackin' the
gameboy (Gamejack and cartridge ready and waitin). No hard coding exp.
here(read C or ASM), but am real familiar with what is there.
Q: how dificult to put together an IDE, (sans map tile editor) where C'RAP
cut easily be cut and pasted.
Swayze
mswayze at truswood.com
kswayze at bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike The Spike" <mtsreborn at yahoo.com>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: C'RAP Re: New Programming Language Being Developed!!
> NP man!
> Nice to see a GBDK coder on this list.
>
> Only the Pascal Felber editions of GBDK are supported,
> though.
> The new ones by Michael <insert last name> use SDCC
> with a fake LCC frontend.
> SDCC does not fully support the ANSI C standard.
>
> For the record,
> I am doing the C'RAP GBDK output code since PlayDude
> can't code for the GB.
> So any suggestions after the first release of the
> translator are appreciated too.
> C'Rap programs run pretty fast on the GB/GBC using
> C'Rap To C.
> The smallest variables are long longs, ie. 32 bit
> ints.
> But when you create an integer wich stays smaller than
> number 255, it will be implemnetd as a GBDK 'unsigned
> int' (= 1 byte).
> They run without too much limitations eighter.
> Only things not supported in C'RAP on the GB are:
> file i/o, +4bit sounds.
> SVGA graphics are supported using the HiColor hack,
> and APA graphics using Jeff Fieldings' APA graphics
> lib.
>
> The rest of the C'RAP runtime routines are implemnted
> using the GBDK/ANSI C library.
>
> ROM bank switching is automatic, too.
>
> I might be able to get the first release ready by
> tomorrow, maybe even in about 8 hours.
> Bill allready did most of the work before I decided to
> help him out with the project.
>
> You can be the main Beta Tester for Gameboy, then ;p
> Get your name in the credits :p
>
>
> Later man!
>
>
> Mike The Spike
>
> --- Mike Swayze <mswayze at TRUSWOOD.COM> wrote:
> > let us no when ya need someone to beta test,
> > (GBDK...I'm all ears)
> >
> > Swayze
> > mswayze at truswood.com
> > kswayze at bellsouth.net
> >
> >
> >
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4. Re: C'RAP Re: New Programming Language Being Developed!!
--- Mike Swayze <mswayze at TRUSWOOD.COM> wrote:
> Mike,
> I draw triangles for a livin man, and am just gettin
> into 'hackin' the
> gameboy (Gamejack and cartridge ready and waitin).
> No hard coding exp.
> here(read C or ASM), but am real familiar with what
> is there.
> Q: how dificult to put together an IDE, (sans map
> tile editor) where C'RAP
> cut easily be cut and pasted.
Download Gameboy Development Studio,
http://www.geocities.com/eureka/9827/.
It features a map and tile ditor, plus
one-click-compilation.
Set your preferences to use CRAPC.EXE instead of LCC,
SDCC, whatever.
Then you can code using this Gameboy IDE, click a
button and have it to compile and run your program
using a GB emulator like NO$GMB (my favorite), or
write your C'RAP program to your Gamejack after
compilation using the dev studio's ROM burning
feature.
Man, let me tell you something, coding for the Gamebo
is a royal pain in the ass, wether you use ASM or C.
GBDK has so many bugs in it you can't believe it.
I actually compiled a Euphoria To C translated program
with GBDK per accident, and to my amasement it
actually
compiled without errors!
This is insane!
Plus, it's hard to code graphics and sounds for the
gameboy once you learned/know C.
set_sprite_pal()?
set_tile_data()??
10 sprites MAX per scanline?
32Kb of RAM?
Sprite RAM?
VRAM?
Background, Window and Sprite layers?
LCD_OFF()
draw_crap()
LCD_ON() or you're ROM will come crashing down in
flames??
Thankfully, the following program compiles and runs
perfectly using C'RAP;
array image of integers .
set image to call repeat call repeat 0,160 ,144 .
call set_graphics_mode 320,200,8 .
call draw_image 0,0,image .
It draws a full-screen image at location {0,0}, wich
in this example, is composed out of black pixels only.
The image is 160*144, so it takes up the entire
gameboy screen.
It first sets the graphics mode to 320*200 in 256-bit
colors.
Since the gameboy screen is 160*140, only the first
160*140 pixels will be displayed when compiled for
Gameboy.
Compile it with CRAPC.EXE into ANSI C source, and if
you, for example, compile the source produced with
DJGPP, your program runs under DOS. Compile it with
GBDK, and your program runs on Gameboy.
Great for writing Console programs, as you don't need
an emulator to test out your program!
(Simply compile it with a C compiler for the PC, and
run it as a PC program!).
Also, once you write a game in C'RAP for, for example,
DOS, without changing even one line of code, you can
recompile it to run on Windows, Linux, Playstation,
Mac, BeOS, Gameboy, etc.
Offcourse, you have to be carefull with your memory
usage, as a Gameboy doesn't have as much memory as a
PC.
Easy eh?
Almost easier than Euphoria!
Mike The Spike
> Swayze
> mswayze at truswood.com
> kswayze at bellsouth.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike The Spike" <mtsreborn at yahoo.com>
> To: <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: C'RAP Re: New Programming Language
> Being Developed!!
>
>
> > NP man!
> > Nice to see a GBDK coder on this list.
> >
> > Only the Pascal Felber editions of GBDK are
> supported,
> > though.
> > The new ones by Michael <insert last name> use
> SDCC
> > with a fake LCC frontend.
> > SDCC does not fully support the ANSI C standard.
> >
> > For the record,
> > I am doing the C'RAP GBDK output code since
> PlayDude
> > can't code for the GB.
> > So any suggestions after the first release of the
> > translator are appreciated too.
> > C'Rap programs run pretty fast on the GB/GBC using
> > C'Rap To C.
> > The smallest variables are long longs, ie. 32 bit
> > ints.
> > But when you create an integer wich stays smaller
> than
> > number 255, it will be implemnetd as a GBDK
> 'unsigned
> > int' (= 1 byte).
> > They run without too much limitations eighter.
> > Only things not supported in C'RAP on the GB are:
> > file i/o, +4bit sounds.
> > SVGA graphics are supported using the HiColor
> hack,
> > and APA graphics using Jeff Fieldings' APA
> graphics
> > lib.
> >
> > The rest of the C'RAP runtime routines are
> implemnted
> > using the GBDK/ANSI C library.
> >
> > ROM bank switching is automatic, too.
> >
> > I might be able to get the first release ready by
> > tomorrow, maybe even in about 8 hours.
> > Bill allready did most of the work before I
> decided to
> > help him out with the project.
> >
> > You can be the main Beta Tester for Gameboy, then
> ;p
> > Get your name in the credits :p
> >
> >
> > Later man!
> >
> >
> > Mike The Spike
> >
> > --- Mike Swayze <mswayze at TRUSWOOD.COM> wrote:
> > > let us no when ya need someone to beta test,
> > > (GBDK...I'm all ears)
> > >
> > > Swayze
> > > mswayze at truswood.com
> > > kswayze at bellsouth.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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5. Re: C'RAP Re: New Programming Language Being Developed!!
- Posted by mswayze at TRUSWOOD.COM
Jan 30, 2001
Mike,
have you got an url for the Pascal Felber gbdk, I checked what I have on my
hardisk and all have sdcc. (all my bookmarks point to the sourceforge
version).
Swayze
mswayze at truswood.com
kswayze at bellsouth.net
..........
> > >
> > > Only the Pascal Felber editions of GBDK are
> > supported,
> > > though.
> > > The new ones by Michael <insert last name> use
> > SDCC
> > > with a fake LCC frontend.
> > > SDCC does not fully support the ANSI C standard.
> > >
.....
> > >
> > > The rest of the C'RAP runtime routines are
> > implemnted
> > > using the GBDK/ANSI C library.
> > >
> > > ROM bank switching is automatic, too.
> > >
> > > I might be able to get the first release ready by
> > > tomorrow, maybe even in about 8 hours.
> > > Bill allready did most of the work before I
> > decided to
> > > help him out with the project.
....
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6. Re: C'RAP Re: New Programming Language Being Developed!!
Pascal Felber's last (stable) version was GBDK 2-1-0.
I can't give you the link, because you allready have
it.
On that sourceforge site, simply download version
2-1-0 and you've got it.
It's the best version if you ask me, a lot safer than
the SDCC version (it uses a port of LCC to Z80 to
compile your code).
Hope I helped.
Mike The Spike
--- mswayze at TRUSWOOD.COM wrote:
> Mike,
> have you got an url for the Pascal Felber gbdk, I
> checked what I have on my
> hardisk and all have sdcc. (all my bookmarks point
> to the sourceforge
> version).
>
> Swayze
> mswayze at truswood.com
> kswayze at bellsouth.net
>
> ...........
> > > >
> > > > Only the Pascal Felber editions of GBDK are
> > > supported,
> > > > though.
> > > > The new ones by Michael <insert last name> use
> > > SDCC
> > > > with a fake LCC frontend.
> > > > SDCC does not fully support the ANSI C
> standard.
> > > >
> ......
> > > >
> > > > The rest of the C'RAP runtime routines are
> > > implemnted
> > > > using the GBDK/ANSI C library.
> > > >
> > > > ROM bank switching is automatic, too.
> > > >
> > > > I might be able to get the first release ready
> by
> > > > tomorrow, maybe even in about 8 hours.
> > > > Bill allready did most of the work before I
> > > decided to
> > > > help him out with the project.
> .....
>
>
>
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