1. Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

Hi 2 All

Have you notice from 02-Dec. Topica stop sending mails to the List? , Or EuForum
stop sending mail to Topica, Not Sure.

Greets
Hugo

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2. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

I received email from topica only until 29 Nov. I tried to unsubscribe 
and subscribe to it again but I still don't receive any mail.

I suggested Rob to move the mailing list to yahoogroups. It is much more 
reliable. It will also promote Euphoria via the yahoogroups directory.
We will be able to create polls and create online databases easily. 
Browsable and threaded message archives. Many people have Yahoo ID so 
they don't need to maintain an account at topica. 

Yahoogroups will append a one or two-line advertisement at the end of
email message. That's the only drawback I found. 

We can still have the web interface for EUforum, euphoria search on message
archives, etc.

How do you think? Will we be better off by moving to the yahoogroups?
Topica really sucks.



Hugo Rozas wrote:
> 
> Hi 2 All
> 
> Have you notice from 02-Dec. Topica stop sending mails to the List? , Or
> EuForum
> stop sending mail to Topica, Not Sure.
> 
> Greets
> Hugo

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3. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

Aku wrote:
> 
> I received email from topica only until 29 Nov. I tried to unsubscribe 
> and subscribe to it again but I still don't receive any mail.
> 
> I suggested Rob to move the mailing list to yahoogroups. It is much more 
> reliable. It will also promote Euphoria via the yahoogroups directory.
> We will be able to create polls and create online databases easily. 
> Browsable and threaded message archives. Many people have Yahoo ID so 
> they don't need to maintain an account at topica. 
> 
> Yahoogroups will append a one or two-line advertisement at the end of
> email message. That's the only drawback I found. 
> 
> We can still have the web interface for EUforum, euphoria search on message
> archives, etc.
> 
> How do you think? Will we be better off by moving to the yahoogroups?
> Topica really sucks.
> 
> 
> Hugo Rozas wrote:
> > 
> > Hi 2 All
> > 
> > Have you notice from 02-Dec. Topica stop sending mails to the List? , Or
> > EuForum
> > stop sending mail to Topica, Not Sure.
> > 
> > Greets
> > Hugo

Why does one have to deal with Topicana or Yahoo at all. I just use Euforum
directly

http://www.listfilter.com/EUforum/

without any problems at all over the last five years.

Don Cole

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4. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

OK, just now I received all 52 mails from topica that I didn't receive,
all in incorrect order because topica modified the mail date.

I am using pop3 mail and I have near 100,000 emails in my harddisk. 
I often use the search feature to find existing mails quickly. I know how many
mails I sent and receive everyday. 

That's why I still like the email way.


don cole wrote:
> 
> Aku wrote:
> > 
> > I received email from topica only until 29 Nov. I tried to unsubscribe 
> > and subscribe to it again but I still don't receive any mail.
> > 
> > I suggested Rob to move the mailing list to yahoogroups. It is much more 
> > reliable. It will also promote Euphoria via the yahoogroups directory.
> > We will be able to create polls and create online databases easily. 
> > Browsable and threaded message archives. Many people have Yahoo ID so 
> > they don't need to maintain an account at topica. 
> > 
> > Yahoogroups will append a one or two-line advertisement at the end of
> > email message. That's the only drawback I found. 
> > 
> > We can still have the web interface for EUforum, euphoria search on message
> > archives, etc.
> > 
> > How do you think? Will we be better off by moving to the yahoogroups?
> > Topica really sucks.
> > 
> > 
> > Hugo Rozas wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi 2 All
> > > 
> > > Have you notice from 02-Dec. Topica stop sending mails to the List? , Or
> > > EuForum
> > > stop sending mail to Topica, Not Sure.
> > > 
> > > Greets
> > > Hugo
> 
> Why does one have to deal with Topicana or Yahoo at all. I just use Euforum
> directly 
> 
> <a
> href="http://www.listfilter.com/EUforum/">http://www.listfilter.com/EUforum/</a>
> 
> without any problems at all over the last five years.
> 
> Don Cole

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5. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

Same reason like AKU ; I use my local stored mails like a knowledge database.

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6. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

don cole wrote:
> 
> Aku wrote:
> > 
> > I received email from topica only until 29 Nov. I tried to unsubscribe 
> > and subscribe to it again but I still don't receive any mail.
> > 
> > I suggested Rob to move the mailing list to yahoogroups. It is much more 
> > reliable. It will also promote Euphoria via the yahoogroups directory.
> > We will be able to create polls and create online databases easily. 
> > Browsable and threaded message archives. Many people have Yahoo ID so 
> > they don't need to maintain an account at topica. 
> > 
> > Yahoogroups will append a one or two-line advertisement at the end of
> > email message. That's the only drawback I found. 
> > 
> > We can still have the web interface for EUforum, euphoria search on message
> > archives, etc.
> > 
> > How do you think? Will we be better off by moving to the yahoogroups?
> > Topica really sucks.
> > 
> > 
> > Hugo Rozas wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi 2 All
> > > 
> > > Have you notice from 02-Dec. Topica stop sending mails to the List? , Or
> > > EuForum
> > > stop sending mail to Topica, Not Sure.
> > > 
> > > Greets
> > > Hugo
> 
> Why does one have to deal with Topicana or Yahoo at all. I just use Euforum
> directly 
> 
> <a
> href="http://www.listfilter.com/EUforum/">http://www.listfilter.com/EUforum/</a>
> 
> without any problems at all over the last five years.
> 
> Don Cole

I don't think I'd be the only one in trouble getting 30 messages a day from 
someone on a computer I don't own. EYforum would be spammed out fast I believe.

Rob, do you plan to have a topica-like message digest emailing feature?

CChris

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7. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

CChris wrote:
> I don't think I'd be the only one in trouble getting 30 messages a day from
> 
> someone on a computer I don't own. EYforum would be spammed out fast I
> believe.
> 
> Rob, do you plan to have a topica-like message digest emailing feature?

No I don't.
As you suggest, it would probably lead to an increase of spam 
sent to listfilter.com. It might also cause listfilter.com to be 
placed on a spam blacklist. It would also require me to fix 
things whenever there was a real or imagined problem with 
the e-mail feed.

RSS is the best way for people to receive messages from EUforum.
Eventually, all major e-mail clients will support RSS.
It works great for me using Thunderbird.

If you want to accumulate messages for your own private
searches, you can use RSS for that. RSS messages are accumulated
in your e-mail client, just like normal messages. 

You can also download any months you want from the 
full message archive. See: 
   http://www.rapideuphoria.com/listserv.htm
(last bullet under "Tips")

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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8. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

Robert Craig wrote:
> RSS is the best way for people to receive messages from EUforum.
> Eventually, all major e-mail clients will support RSS.
> It works great for me using Thunderbird.
> 
> If you want to accumulate messages for your own private
> searches, you can use RSS for that. RSS messages are accumulated
> in your e-mail client, just like normal messages. 

Then what is the whole point of sending the post from
EUform to Topica ? Why not eliminate Topica ? That
will remove a lot of spam from everybody's in-box because everyone's
email address is being posted on Topica whether a user is
signed up to receive Topica email or not.  

Bernie

My files in archive:
WMOTOR, XMOTOR, W32ENGIN, MIXEDLIB, EU_ENGIN, WIN32ERU, WIN32API 

Can be downloaded here:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan

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9. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

Bernie Ryan wrote:
> Robert Craig wrote:
> > RSS is the best way for people to receive messages from EUforum.
> > Eventually, all major e-mail clients will support RSS.
> > It works great for me using Thunderbird.
> > 
> > If you want to accumulate messages for your own private
> > searches, you can use RSS for that. RSS messages are accumulated
> > in your e-mail client, just like normal messages. 
> 
> Then what is the whole point of sending the post from
> EUform to Topica ? Why not eliminate Topica ? 

Apparently a few hundred people are receiving EUforum
via Topica. Most people are still using things like Outlook Express
which do not support RSS. I may drop support for Topica 
eventually, but I don't see it happening in the near future. 

> That
> will remove a lot of spam from everybody's in-box because everyone's
> email address is being posted on Topica whether a user is
> signed up to receive Topica email or not.  

I don't know exactly where the spammers get their addresses,
but I know that most of the spam I personally receive is not
sent to rds at RapidEuphoria.com (my Topica address). It's sent to 
some bogus address at RapidEuphoria.com, or it's sent to my addr.com
address (which I never use) which is the registered address 
for RapidEuphoria.com as published somewhere on the Internet.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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10. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

Robert Craig wrote:
> 
> Bernie Ryan wrote:
> > Robert Craig wrote:
> > > RSS is the best way for people to receive messages from EUforum.
> > > Eventually, all major e-mail clients will support RSS.
> > > It works great for me using Thunderbird.
> > > 
> > > If you want to accumulate messages for your own private
> > > searches, you can use RSS for that. RSS messages are accumulated
> > > in your e-mail client, just like normal messages. 
> > 
> > Then what is the whole point of sending the post from
> > EUform to Topica ? Why not eliminate Topica ? 
> 
> Apparently a few hundred people are receiving EUforum
> via Topica. Most people are still using things like Outlook Express
> which do not support RSS. I may drop support for Topica 
> eventually, but I don't see it happening in the near future. 

One of the few hundred people is me. Although I'm not using outlook express
but my mail client doesn't support RSS. 

And some people don't want to change their mail client that they have
been using for years to other ones that support RSS.

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11. Re: Topica stop sending mail from 02-Dec?

Bernie Ryan wrote:
> 
> Robert Craig wrote:
> > RSS is the best way for people to receive messages from EUforum.
> > Eventually, all major e-mail clients will support RSS.
> > It works great for me using Thunderbird.
> > 
> > If you want to accumulate messages for your own private
> > searches, you can use RSS for that. RSS messages are accumulated
> > in your e-mail client, just like normal messages. 
> 
> Then what is the whole point of sending the post from
> EUform to Topica ? Why not eliminate Topica ? That
> will remove a lot of spam from everybody's in-box because everyone's
> email address is being posted on Topica whether a user is
> signed up to receive Topica email or not.  
> 
> Bernie
> 
> My files in archive:
> WMOTOR, XMOTOR, W32ENGIN, MIXEDLIB, EU_ENGIN, WIN32ERU, WIN32API 
> 
> Can be downloaded here:
> <a
> href="http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan">http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan</a>

Topica does not display email addresses on their interface. RDS does though and
I wish it wouldn't. Even the dumbest spam bots can figure out that 'someone at
somewhere dot com' is an email address.

Chris Bensler
~ The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra ~
http://empire.iwireweb.com - Empire for Euphoria

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