1. My name in future.htm

Rob, 
In future.htm you write:

Parser: The warning about short-circuit evaluation is not issued when
a function call is an argument to another function, or an index of a
sequence. Thanks to Pete Lomax. 

I was being deeply sarcastic when I reported that. Please remove my
name from that "bug report". Alternatively, please replace "Thanks to
Pete Lomax" with "Since Pete Lomax pointed out just how pointless and
annoying warnings about short circuit evaluation are, I thought I'd
make the problem worse."

Thanks,
Pete

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2. Re: My name in future.htm

Pete Lomax wrote:
> Rob, 
> In future.htm you write:
> 
> Parser: The warning about short-circuit evaluation is not issued when
> a function call is an argument to another function, or an index of a
> sequence. Thanks to Pete Lomax. 
> 
> I was being deeply sarcastic when I reported that. Please remove my
> name from that "bug report". Alternatively, please replace "Thanks to
> Pete Lomax" with "Since Pete Lomax pointed out just how pointless and
> annoying warnings about short circuit evaluation are, I thought I'd
> make the problem worse."

OK, I've removed that item entirely.

I am probably already "over-warning" about 
short-circuit side-effects. The warnings made more 
sense when short-circuit evaluation was first 
introduced 7 years ago. At that time, people were
very concerned that existing code was going to 
mysteriously break. The warnings identified places
where breakage might occur.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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3. Re: My name in future.htm

Robert Craig wrote:
> 
> Pete Lomax wrote:
> > Rob, 
> > In future.htm you write:
> > 
> > Parser: The warning about short-circuit evaluation is not issued when
> > a function call is an argument to another function, or an index of a
> > sequence. Thanks to Pete Lomax. 
> > 
> > I was being deeply sarcastic when I reported that. Please remove my
> > name from that "bug report". Alternatively, please replace "Thanks to
> > Pete Lomax" with "Since Pete Lomax pointed out just how pointless and
> > annoying warnings about short circuit evaluation are, I thought I'd
> > make the problem worse."
> 
> OK, I've removed that item entirely.
> 
> I am probably already "over-warning" about 
> short-circuit side-effects. The warnings made more 
> sense when short-circuit evaluation was first 
> introduced 7 years ago. At that time, people were
> very concerned that existing code was going to 
> mysteriously break. The warnings identified places
> where breakage might occur.
> 
> Regards,
>    Rob Craig
>    Rapid Deployment Software
>    <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>


Thank you sincerely for that Rob, on my behalf too;

Sorry, but I must point out in this context that today the Trace option is 
40% unusable, so EUPHORIA does not hold a true up-to-date debugging tool,
while the printout of sequences is a real torment.

A. Alessi

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4. Re: My name in future.htm

Hi Antonio,
I've seen worse tracing facility. You could try Delphi 6 tracing to get message
like that:
"Due to optimization this variable is not visible." when asking to see a simple
integer variable.

regards,
Jacques DeschĂȘnes


Antonio Alessi wrote:
> 

> Sorry, but I must point out in this context that today the Trace option is 
> 40% unusable, so EUPHORIA does not hold a true up-to-date debugging tool,
> while the printout of sequences is a real torment.
> 
> A. Alessi

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Trace doesn't work, what do you mean?

On 7/31/06, Antonio Alessi <guest at rapideuphoria.com> wrote:
>
>
> posted by: Antonio Alessi <a.admin at myway.it>
>
> Robert Craig wrote:
> >
> > Pete Lomax wrote:
> > > Rob,
> > > In future.htm you write:
> > >
> > > Parser: The warning about short-circuit evaluation is not issued when
> > > a function call is an argument to another function, or an index of a
> > > sequence. Thanks to Pete Lomax.
> > >
> > > I was being deeply sarcastic when I reported that. Please remove my
> > > name from that "bug report". Alternatively, please replace "Thanks to
> > > Pete Lomax" with "Since Pete Lomax pointed out just how pointless and
> > > annoying warnings about short circuit evaluation are, I thought I'd
> > > make the problem worse."
> >
> > OK, I've removed that item entirely.
> >
> > I am probably already "over-warning" about
> > short-circuit side-effects. The warnings made more
> > sense when short-circuit evaluation was first
> > introduced 7 years ago. At that time, people were
> > very concerned that existing code was going to
> > mysteriously break. The warnings identified places
> > where breakage might occur.
> >
> > Regards,
> >    Rob Craig
> >    Rapid Deployment Software
> >    <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
> </a>
>
>
> Thank you sincerely for that Rob, on my behalf too;
>
> Sorry, but I must point out in this context that today the Trace option is
> 40% unusable, so EUPHORIA does not hold a true up-to-date debugging tool,
> while the printout of sequences is a real torment.
>
> A. Alessi
>
>
>
>

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Trace doesn't work, what do you mean?<br><br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/31/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Antonio
Alessi</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:guest at rapideuphoria.com">guest at
rapideuphoria.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px
0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">============ The Euphoria Mailing List
============<br><br><br>posted by: Antonio Alessi &lt;a.admin at <a
href="http://myway.it">
myway.it</a>&gt;<br><br>Robert Craig wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Pete Lomax
wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Rob,<br>&gt; &gt; In future.htm you write:<br>&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Parser: The warning about short-circuit evaluation is not
issued when
<br>&gt; &gt; a function call is an argument to another function, or an index of
a<br>&gt; &gt; sequence. Thanks to Pete Lomax.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I was
being deeply sarcastic when I reported that. Please remove my
<br>&gt; &gt; name from that &quot;bug report&quot;. Alternatively, please
replace &quot;Thanks to<br>&gt; &gt; Pete Lomax&quot; with &quot;Since Pete Lomax
pointed out just how pointless and<br>&gt; &gt; annoying warnings about short
circuit evaluation are, I thought I'd
<br>&gt; &gt; make the problem worse.&quot;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; OK, I've removed
that item entirely.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I am probably already
&quot;over-warning&quot; about<br>&gt; short-circuit side-effects. The warnings
made more
<br>&gt; sense when short-circuit evaluation was first<br>&gt; introduced 7
years ago. At that time, people were<br>&gt; very concerned that existing code
was going to<br>&gt; mysteriously break. The warnings identified places
<br>&gt; where breakage might occur.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
Regards,<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rob
Craig<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rapid Deployment
Software<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;<a
href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>&quot;&gt;
<a
href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>&lt;/a&gt;<br><br><br>Thank
you sincerely for that Rob, on my behalf too;<br><br>Sorry, but I must point out
in this context that today the Trace option is
<br>40% unusable, so EUPHORIA does not hold a true up-to-date debugging
tool,<br>while the printout of sequences is a real torment.<br><br>A.
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