1. Fonts in EUForum main listing
Dear RDS,
could you consider changing the font face coding of "courier" to
"courier new, courier"? The reason is that on Windows, the 'courier' font
is not scalable but 'courier new' is a scalable font. This is an issue for
people who use browers that permit 'zooming' such as Opera.
For example, instead of ...
<font face="courier" color="#C17B99">
use ...
<font face="courier new, courier" color="#C17B99">
instead.
And maybe a future enhancement would be to use CSS for the elements.
--
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
2. Re: Fonts in EUForum main listing
Derek Parnell wrote:
> Dear RDS,
> could you consider changing the font face coding of "courier" to
> "courier new, courier"? The reason is that on Windows, the 'courier' font
> is not scalable but 'courier new' is a scalable font. This is an issue
for
> people who use browers that permit 'zooming' such as Opera.
[snip]
It is the very tricky thing - the fonts in your browser.
Say, Linux browsers have no Windows fonts at all, some Russian
Windows' have no some standard Windows fonts, for example,
there is no Russian "Comic" on Win95 etc etc etc etc.
So, this story (about font faces on WWW pages) may be endless.
Just try to adjust your browser and OS for better viewing.
Regards,
Igor Kachan
kinz at peterlink.ru
3. Re: Fonts in EUForum main listing
Igor Kachan wrote:
>
> Derek Parnell wrote:
>
> > Dear RDS,
> > could you consider changing the font face coding of "courier" to
> > "courier new, courier"? The reason is that on Windows, the 'courier' font
> > is not scalable but 'courier new' is a scalable font. This is an issue
> for
> > people who use browers that permit 'zooming' such as Opera.
>
> [snip]
>
> It is the very tricky thing - the fonts in your browser.
> Say, Linux browsers have no Windows fonts at all, some Russian
> Windows' have no some standard Windows fonts, for example,
> there is no Russian "Comic" on Win95 etc etc etc etc.
>
> So, this story (about font faces on WWW pages) may be endless.
> Just try to adjust your browser and OS for better viewing.
So it's not the provider's problem, it's the customer's problem, right?
I suggested "courier new,courier" so that for Windows users it would get the
Windows Courier New font and for non-Windows users it would use the Courier
font or its equivalent.
However, it might be better to use "monospace" and let the user assign
whatever font to that symbolic font name.
So maybe "Times New Roman" should be changed to "serif", "Arial" to
"sans-serif",
etc...
Or maybe CSS is the better way to go right now. And if your Win95 browser
doesn't support CSS maybe you should "Just try to adjust your browser
and OS for better viewing".
--
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
4. Re: Fonts in EUForum main listing
Derek Parnell wrote:
[snip]
> > So, this story (about font faces on WWW pages) may be endless.
> > Just try to adjust your browser and OS for better viewing.
>
> So it's not the provider's problem, it's the customer's problem, right?
What provider and what customer?
We all are just visitors of the free Web sites, guests.
We are consumers of free products, and many of us are
just spongers and drones, so to say.
The frequenters and habitues ... this is another topic, I think.
If you think about "frequenter" but tell us about "customer",
you risk to be in front of incomprehension.
So, it is not the provider's problem, nor the customer's problem,
it is just a technical problem.
> I suggested "courier new,courier" so that for Windows users it
> would get the Windows Courier New font and for non-Windows users
> it would use the Courier font or its equivalent.
I do not think that "courier new" and "courier" may have too
different *faces* in *any* browser.
> However, it might be better to use "monospace" and let the user assign
> whatever font to that symbolic font name.
If you use <pre></pre> pair of tegs, you'll get monospace with
the first monospace font available to your browser, I believe.
It is just courier. Linux has that standard courier.
> So maybe "Times New Roman" should be changed to "serif",
> "Arial" to "sans-serif", etc...
Linux (Mozilla, if I did not confuse) uses the times-like own font
instead of arial. But times is not monospace.
These are proportional fonts.
You can compare documents from Russian section of RDS site
and from English section to see what changes in font faces
were done to get more or less similar picture in IE3,
NS4, NS6, O5, O7 and a bunch of Linux KDE and Gnome
browsers in Russian.
> Or maybe CSS is the better way to go right now. And if your Win95 browser
> doesn't support CSS maybe you should "Just try to adjust your browser
> and OS for better viewing".
IE3.01 of Win95 OSR2 has a switch "with/without CSS",
there is no a problem.
Only pure Windows 95 of 1995 year vintage can not catch CSS,
it seems to me.
I have Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 10 on multibooting 1.8Ghz machine now.
Plus Win95 OSR2 on my PC_1 (P166MMX, 64Mb RAM),
and on my 386 mainframe (25MHz, 8 Mb RAM). 
Regards,
Igor Kachan
kinz at peterlink.ru
5. Re: Fonts in EUForum main listing
Derek Parnell wrote:
>
> Dear RDS,
> could you consider changing the font face coding of "courier" to
> "courier new, courier"? The reason is that on Windows, the 'courier' font
> is not scalable but 'courier new' is a scalable font. This is an issue for
> people who use browers that permit 'zooming' such as Opera.
>
> For example, instead of ...
>
> <font face="courier" color="#C17B99">
>
> use ...
>
> <font face="courier new, courier" color="#C17B99">
>
> instead.
>
>
> And maybe a future enhancement would be to use CSS for the elements.
OK, I've changed the code to say "courier new, courier".
The way it works, it will take a few days before "courier"
is completely gone.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
