1. Judith's IDE - a couple more suggestions

It would be extremely helpful to be able to set default property values for
each control. For example, if I want to create a grid of bitmaps, I don't
want to resize them every time. I would also like to be able to set the
default name and caption for the control when using multiple drop, and have
the IDE increment it each time.

There also doesn't seem to be any way to copy a control. It might be good
to be able to select multiple controls and copy them to another part of the
window. This might not be needed if you allowed the user to set the default
properties.

I'd also like to see a code editor option that would let you see the
program as a whole and edit parts. I think this would be really hard to do,
though, so I can wait.

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2. Re: Judith's IDE - a couple more suggestions

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:15:36 -0500, SR Williamson <sr.williamson at OSHA.GOV>
wrote:

>It would be extremely helpful to be able to set default property values for
>each control. For example, if I want to create a grid of bitmaps, I don't
>want to resize them every time.


Do you mean they would all have the same cx, cy? You would indicate the
default on the first bitmap and every control of that CLASS would default
but you could override if you wanted? I can do that. Would have to come up
with some way to indicate that is what you wanted to happen, though. If
you've see this before, how did you indicate to do this?

>I would also like to be able to set the
>default name and caption for the control when using multiple drop, and have
>the IDE increment it each time.

So you would want to give the first name and caption and from then on, while
in multi drop, the same name would have an incrementing number after it?
Such as MyButton, MyButton1, MyButton2?
>
>There also doesn't seem to be any way to copy a control.

You copy a single control by holding down the CTRL key while clicking on
the control and dragging it to the new location.

>It might be good
>to be able to select multiple controls and copy them to another part of the
>window. This might not be needed if you allowed the user to set the default
>properties.

It might be easier to have a group copy. I have had a request for that for a
long time. I assume their relative position to one another stays the same.


>
>I'd also like to see a code editor option that would let you see the
>program as a whole and edit parts. I think this would be really hard to do,
>though, so I can wait.

Not as difficult as you might think. It is an interesting idea. Let me mull
it over....

Thanks for your comments,

Judith

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3. Re: Judith's IDE - a couple more suggestions

>Do you mean they would all have the same cx, cy? You would indicate the
>default on the first bitmap and every control of that CLASS would default
>but you could override if you wanted? I can do that. Would have to come up
>with some way to indicate that is what you wanted to happen, though.

Yes, that's what I mean. And more also. For example, if select a button,
the default name is PushButton1. I might want to call it AButton1. I would
like it if I could set that as a default, and then the next button I select
would be called AButton2.
>If
>you've see this before, how did you indicate to do this?

I don't remember where I saw this. I think it was Borland C++ Builder. What
they did was allow you to change the values in the property sheet, and
whatever values you set last became the default. I think there was a menu
option that would let you toggle whether previous values became defaults. I
like the idea of being able to right click a control in the toolbox to set
the default though. I think it would be less obtrusive for those that don't
want it, and for newbies who might get overwhelmed by too many options.

Since I now know that I can copy controls (I assume they keep the size I
set, and don't revert to the default size when pasted. The name reverting
to default I can live with), this is much less needed. I would rather have
you concentrate on more important things.

Group copy works for me. That would be just as good to me as multiple
selection of controls for copying.

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4. Re: Judith's IDE - a couple more suggestions

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:16:14 -0500, SR Williamson <SR.Williamson at OSHA.GOV>
wrote:

snip, snip

>
>Group copy works for me. That would be just as good to me as multiple
>selection of controls for copying.

So I don't need to do anything?

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5. Re: Judith's IDE - a couple more suggestions

>>Group copy works for me. That would be just as good to me as multiple
>>selection of controls for copying.

>So I don't need to do anything?

Yeah, IOW, if you add group copying, you don't have to worry about being
able to set default control properties. I tried it today, and it does what
I want.

Also, I checked the version number of the IDE I'm using and it's .9M.2. The
CTL-V key combo still locks up the code editor, but I haven't tried another
fresh boot with no other windows open to see if it's a resource problem.

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6. Re: Judith's IDE - a couple more suggestions

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:12:27 -0500, SR Williamson <sr.williamson at OSHA.GOV>
wrote:

>>>Group copy works for me. That would be just as good to me as multiple
>>>selection of controls for copying.
>
>>So I don't need to do anything?
>
>Yeah, IOW, if you add group copying, you don't have to worry about being
>able to set default control properties. I tried it today, and it does what
>I want.
>
>Also, I checked the version number of the IDE I'm using and it's .9M.2. The
>CTL-V key combo still locks up the code editor, but I haven't tried another
>fresh boot with no other windows open to see if it's a resource problem.

Ok, I tried copy/paste with windows explorer, my ISP connected, Netscape
Navigator, my source to copy from and IDE all up and going at the same time.
I've also got sufficient RAM. No problem with copy/paste. I've tried
different lengths of data to copy. I've used ctrl-c and ctrl-v and the
menu 'copy' and 'paste' and combinations of them. I'm using windows98 SE; I
dunna know if that makes any difference. Please let me know your results....

Concerning the Pixmap request...
I have IDE changed so that Bitmap/Pixmap class may be picked from
Properties. It will be in the next release. But this led me to another
thought. Right now, none of the controls can go negative x,y. Often we use
Pixmap and other controls 'offscreen' so that they are hidden from the user.
IDE doesn't account for that. If you enter negative x,y the control will be
placed at 0,0. Probably something I need to think about. No problem making
the x,y negative but the control couldn't be drawn on the design window and
then you couldn't click on it to make additional changes.

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