1. Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
- Posted by xerox_irs at lvcm.com
May 23, 2003
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pardon the pun, but what will happen to euphoria if on these new =
systems?
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
I was reading that, and the answer looks bad, I'm not even sure if =
programming will even be allowed(by law).
Scary thought.
Daniel Kluss
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pardon the pun, but what will happen to =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was reading that, and the answer =
looks bad, I'm=20
not even sure if programming will even be allowed(by law).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scary thought.</FONT></DIV>
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2. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
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May 23, 2003
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hehehe,
I think there are enough hacker in the world for this
to be a waste of Intel and Microsofts time....
besides, who the hell would buy it???=20
Dont be nieve!!! People arent that stupid....
Euman
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Subject: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
pardon the pun, but what will happen to euphoria if on these new =
systems?
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
I was reading that, and the answer looks bad, I'm not even sure if =
programming will even be allowed(by law).
Scary thought.
Daniel Kluss
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hehehe,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think there are enough hacker in the =
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this</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>besides, who the hell would buy it??? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dont be nieve!!! People arent that=20
stupid....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Euman</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><PRE>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Euphoria =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pardon the pun, but what will happen =
to euphoria=20
if on these new systems?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html">http://www.cl.cam.a=
c.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was reading that, and the answer =
looks bad, I'm=20
not even sure if programming will even be allowed(by =
law).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scary thought.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Daniel =
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3. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:09:51PM -0700, xerox_irs at lvcm.com wrote:
>
> pardon the pun, but what will happen to euphoria if on these new systems?
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
> I was reading that, and the answer looks bad, I'm not even sure if programming
> will even be allowed(by law).
> Scary thought.
>
> Daniel Kluss
>
Thats a good question.
Euphoria itself, I don't think with be hurt directly. (I don't see why a
TCPA-enabled OS would block Euphoria, if the home user wanted to use it.)
Of course, the threat to open-source programming, and even to general
hobbyist programming, is a different story ...
jbrown
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4. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
- Posted by xerox_irs at lvcm.com
May 23, 2003
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I'm a computer consultant(hay dan its doing something funny come fix it, =
ill pay you) in my spare time, and yes people are that stupid, they will =
go to the store, the nice man will sell them whatever he can and all the =
sudden 90% of the population will be stuck with the bad security(not =
inefective, but just plain evil).
Sorry for being to grimm, but I somehow think that simeday, all =
programmers will need a license and be hunted down by the gestopo(bill =
gates,and the (fritz)senitor of calefornia) if the don't have one. thats =
not a world I want to live in.
Daniel Kluss
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From: euman at bellsouth.net=20
To: EUforum=20
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
hehehe,
I think there are enough hacker in the world for this
to be a waste of Intel and Microsofts time....
besides, who the hell would buy it???=20
Dont be nieve!!! People arent that stupid....
Euman
----- Original Message -----=20
From: xerox_irs at lvcm.com=20
To: EUforum=20
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
pardon the pun, but what will happen to euphoria if on these new =
systems?
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
I was reading that, and the answer looks bad, I'm not even sure if =
programming will even be allowed(by law).
Scary thought.
Daniel Kluss
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm a computer consultant(hay dan its =
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something funny come fix it, ill pay you) in my spare time, and yes =
people=20
are that stupid, they will go to the store, the nice man will sell them =
whatever=20
he can and all the sudden 90% of the population will be stuck with the =
bad=20
security(not inefective, but just plain evil).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry for being to grimm, but I =
somehow think=20
that simeday, all programmers will need a license and be hunted down by =
the=20
gestopo(bill gates,and the (fritz)senitor of calefornia) if the =
don't have=20
one. thats not a world I want to live in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Daniel Kluss</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV><PRE>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hehehe,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think there are enough hacker in =
the world for=20
this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to be a waste of Intel and Microsofts =
time....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>besides, who the hell would buy it??? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dont be nieve!!! People arent that=20
stupid....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Euman</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=3Dxerox_irs at lvcm.com=20
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PM</DIV>
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or get=20
executed by the new security</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><PRE>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The =
Euphoria Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
</PRE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pardon the pun, but what will =
happen to=20
euphoria if on these new systems?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html">http://www.cl.cam.a=
c.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was reading that, and the answer =
looks bad,=20
I'm not even sure if programming will even be allowed(by =
law).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scary thought.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Daniel =
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5. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
- Posted by xerox_irs at lvcm.com
May 23, 2003
I hope noone adopts that security, but bill gates has a way of setting the
standard(all the people that are reading this in outlook express under
windows know that).
Daniel Kluss
----- Original Message -----
From: <jbrown1050 at hotpop.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:09:51PM -0700, xerox_irs at lvcm.com wrote:
> >
> > pardon the pun, but what will happen to euphoria if on these new
systems?
> > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
> > I was reading that, and the answer looks bad, I'm not even sure if
programming will even be allowed(by law).
> > Scary thought.
> >
> > Daniel Kluss
> >
>
> Thats a good question.
>
> Euphoria itself, I don't think with be hurt directly. (I don't see why a
> TCPA-enabled OS would block Euphoria, if the home user wanted to use it.)
>
> Of course, the threat to open-source programming, and even to general
> hobbyist programming, is a different story ...
>
> jbrown
>
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6. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
- Posted by gertie at visionsix.com
May 23, 2003
On 23 May 2003, at 13:27, xerox_irs at lvcm.com wrote:
>
>
> I hope noone adopts that security, but bill gates has a way of setting the
> standard(all the people that are reading this in outlook express under
> windows know that).
The thing is, there is no good reason to keep using Outlook Express.
Kat
> Daniel Kluss
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jbrown1050 at hotpop.com>
> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
>
>
> > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:09:51PM -0700, xerox_irs at lvcm.com wrote:
> > >
> > > pardon the pun, but what will happen to euphoria if on these new
> systems?
> > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
> > > I was reading that, and the answer looks bad, I'm not even sure if
> programming will even be allowed(by law).
> > > Scary thought.
> > >
> > > Daniel Kluss
> > >
> >
> > Thats a good question.
> >
> > Euphoria itself, I don't think with be hurt directly. (I don't see why a
> > TCPA-enabled OS would block Euphoria, if the home user wanted to use it.)
> >
> > Of course, the threat to open-source programming, and even to general
> > hobbyist programming, is a different story ...
> >
> > jbrown
> >
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7. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
> > I hope noone adopts that security, but bill gates has a way of setting
>the
> > standard(all the people that are reading this in outlook express under
> > windows know that).
>
>The thing is, there is no good reason to keep using Outlook Express.
>
>Kat
It's quite ironic, really.
List of all the good reasons to use Outlook Express:
List of all the peole who use Outlook Express:
The thing is, that all the DRM goons have to do is come up with some
marketspeak, and convince computer stores that it's good for their bottom
line. Average Joe Punter will be unsure what's what, and the store clerk
will quite happily steer them towards the new Fritz-enabled PC's and
OS's....
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>From: gertie at visionsix.com
>Reply-To: EUforum at topica.com
>To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
>Subject: Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
>Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 18:31:26 -0500
>
>
>On 23 May 2003, at 13:27, xerox_irs at lvcm.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Daniel Kluss
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <jbrown1050 at hotpop.com>
> > To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 1:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:09:51PM -0700, xerox_irs at lvcm.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > pardon the pun, but what will happen to euphoria if on these new
> > systems?
> > > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
> > > > I was reading that, and the answer looks bad, I'm not even sure if
> > programming will even be allowed(by law).
> > > > Scary thought.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Kluss
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thats a good question.
> > >
> > > Euphoria itself, I don't think with be hurt directly. (I don't see why
>a
> > > TCPA-enabled OS would block Euphoria, if the home user wanted to use
>it.)
> > >
> > > Of course, the threat to open-source programming, and even to general
> > > hobbyist programming, is a different story ...
> > >
> > > jbrown
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8. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
- Posted by xerox_irs at lvcm.com
May 24, 2003
I'm not saying that it is usefull, im just saying its a standard, that is
windows/mediaplay/internet exploder/outlook/word you get the idea. some one
said "how many engineers does bill gates need to screw in a light buld, none
make makes darkness and industry standard" --I didn't say it, but how true.
Daniel Kluss
----- Original Message -----
From: <gertie at visionsix.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
>
>
> On 23 May 2003, at 13:27, xerox_irs at lvcm.com wrote:
>
> >
> > I hope noone adopts that security, but bill gates has a way of setting
the
> > standard(all the people that are reading this in outlook express under
> > windows know that).
>
> The thing is, there is no good reason to keep using Outlook Express.
>
> Kat
>
> > Daniel Kluss
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <jbrown1050 at hotpop.com>
> > To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 1:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:09:51PM -0700, xerox_irs at lvcm.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > pardon the pun, but what will happen to euphoria if on these new
> > systems?
> > > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
> > > > I was reading that, and the answer looks bad, I'm not even sure if
> > programming will even be allowed(by law).
> > > > Scary thought.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Kluss
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thats a good question.
> > >
> > > Euphoria itself, I don't think with be hurt directly. (I don't see why
a
> > > TCPA-enabled OS would block Euphoria, if the home user wanted to use
it.)
> > >
> > > Of course, the threat to open-source programming, and even to general
> > > hobbyist programming, is a different story ...
> > >
> > > jbrown
> > >
> > > --
> > > /"\ ASCII ribbon | http://www.geocities.com/jbrown1050/
> > > \ / campain against | Linux User:190064
> > > X HTML in e-mail and | Linux Machine:84163
> > > /*\ news, and unneeded MIME |
> > >
> > >
> > > TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE!
> > >
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9. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
- Posted by gertie at visionsix.com
May 24, 2003
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020627.html
Kat
10. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
- Posted by gertie at visionsix.com
May 25, 2003
Near as i can tell, Euphoria interpreter will run if Robert gets M$ Palladium
certification for the interpreter exe. It's liable to be pricey and take time to
be
certified, making beta releases fewer, and jacking up the price of the
releases. If we compile anything, it most likely will not be distributeable,
best
case is it will get caught in a warning and prompt asking the user if they
want to drop all "protection", hardly heartwarming, hardly instilling a sense of
trust in your customers. It most likely will be restricted as to what it can do,
like sys calls and asm code blocks and raw memory managing. The first
release of "security" code is due out later this year.
In a way, this will make computers run slower, due to the cpu essentially
interpreting the exe before running it, analysing each move the app makes. If
a user cannot disable "protection", email sent to a "secure" box from an
"unsecure" box will be unreadable, and replying to a "secure" box from an
"insecure" box will also be unreadable. M$ will also be redesigning basic
TCP/IP, changing the packet sizes and the bit allocation within each packet,
making obsolete all previous socks dll's. They got practice with this in winXP
and win2k. The packets will contain personal fingerprints of the source
computer, which will be stored hashed in the cpu registers and bios.
http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/25891.html
You XP users will find the snooping ability of M$ to be more alarming at this
url:
http://theregister.co.uk/content/archive/24815.html
Ironically, Palladium and Fiskchip are making me feel a lot *less* secure.
Kat
11. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
On Sun, 25 May 2003 23:19:27 +0000, Larry Mears <LarryMears at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Near as i can tell, Euphoria interpreter will run if Robert gets M$
>> Palladium certification for the interpreter exe. It's liable to be
>> pricey and take time to be certified, making beta releases fewer, and
>> jacking up the price of the releases. If we compile anything, it most
>> likely will not be distributeable, best case is it will get caught in a
>> warning and prompt asking the user >
>> http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/25891.html
>>
>> Ironically, Palladium and Fiskchip are making me feel a lot *less*
>> secure.
>>
>> Kat
>>
>
> This just makes me mad. I'll take a fire axe to my computer and throw
> it into the trash before I'll go for that kind of control. I vote with
> my wallet and a motherboard with a Fritz chip or a OS that uses it I will
> not buy. If the internet requires it I say go back to BBS systems and
> Fidonet. We don't have to take this.
>
> Larry Mears
The Amiga and its operating system is looking real good about now. It's not
due for at least six months though %-(
--
cheers,
Derek Parnell
12. Re: Will euphoria run, or get executed by the new security
- Posted by irvm at ellijay.com
May 26, 2003
On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:33 pm, you wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 25 May 2003 23:19:27 +0000, Larry Mears <LarryMears at hotmail.com>
>
> wrote:
> > gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> >> Near as i can tell, Euphoria interpreter will run if Robert gets M$
> >> Palladium certification for the interpreter exe. It's liable to be
> >> pricey and take time to be certified, making beta releases fewer, and
> >> jacking up the price of the releases. If we compile anything, it most
> >> likely will not be distributeable, best case is it will get caught in a
> >> warning and prompt asking the user >
> >> http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/25891.html
> >>
> >> Ironically, Palladium and Fiskchip are making me feel a lot *less*
> >> secure.
> >>
> >> Kat
> >
> > This just makes me mad. I'll take a fire axe to my computer and throw
> > it into the trash before I'll go for that kind of control. I vote with
> > my wallet and a motherboard with a Fritz chip or a OS that uses it I will
> > not buy. If the internet requires it I say go back to BBS systems and
> > Fidonet. We don't have to take this.
> >
> > Larry Mears
>
> The Amiga and its operating system is looking real good about now. It's not
> due for at least six months though %-(
The way I see this is it will either consolidate Microsoft's hold on computing
and give them control of the internet (which was paid for by taxpayers, not
them) - OR - it will cause a mass exodus away from the PC and Microsoft
to the great benefit of Apple and other manufacturers, as well as computer
users, because almost anything is more stable and usable than Microsoft.
Allow me to present Hutnick's Theorem of Internet Discourse:
Any sufficiently frank technical discussion of MicroSoft software is
indistinguishable from MicroSoft bashing.
--Peter Hutnick
Irv
