1. Critique <revisited>

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>Robert Craig wrote:

>The trouble is, there are dozens of
>such features, and I believe if they were all
>added, the language manual would be harder
>to digest without there being much more power.
>The small size of the language is also helpful
>when porting to other platforms, and in writing
>various tools, such as Euphoria To C, and David's
>Euphoria To Java, etc.

After aquireing several dozen e-mails in regards to=20
my critique <statement> Some from people I've personally
helped in the past that find it convenient to bash my opinion.

I personally wish to say I hope we get a Language that
is better, faster than anything out there  with every command known to =
man but, for $29.00, I hardly think so.

I hope i didnt misconceive here but, didn't Robert just
say there was not going to be a (continue)?
I would also guess that y'all can forget about the GOTO
aswell.

euman



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;Robert Craig wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3>&gt;The trouble=20
is, there are dozens of<BR>&gt;such features, and I believe if they were =

all<BR>&gt;added, the language manual would be harder<BR>&gt;to digest =
without=20
there being much more power.<BR>&gt;The small size of the language is =
also=20
helpful<BR>&gt;when porting to other platforms, and in =
writing<BR>&gt;various=20
tools, such as Euphoria To C, and David's<BR>&gt;Euphoria To Java,=20
etc.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After aquireing several dozen e-mails =
in regards to=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>my critique &lt;statement&gt; Some from =
people I've=20
personally</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>helped in the past that find it =
convenient to bash=20
my opinion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I personally wish to say I hope we get =
a Language=20
that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better, faster than anything out =
there&nbsp;=20
with every command known to man but, for $29.00, </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I hardly think so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3>I hope&nbsp;i=20
didnt misconceive here but, didn't Robert just</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3>say there was=20
not going to be a (continue)?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3>I would also=20
guess that y'all can forget about the GOTO</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>aswell</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>euman</FONT></DIV>

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2. Re: Critique <revisited>

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:19:02 -0500, Euman <euman at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:

>>Robert Craig wrote:
>
>>The trouble is, there are dozens of
>>such features, and I believe if they were all
>>added, the language manual would be harder
>>to digest without there being much more power.

I understand this, but if the main issue was how
to learn Euphoria I'm sure the current refman could
be split into a beginner and an advanced version.
I'm sure some of the advanced features like profiling
could also be moved to the advanced version.

>>The small size of the language is also helpful
>>when porting to other platforms, and in writing
>>various tools, such as Euphoria To C, and David's
>>Euphoria To Java, etc.

I understand this is well, but where will the line
in the sand be drawn?  Will the compatiabilty with
add on tools kill enhacements to the base language?

(Note: As much as I like DOS, I think the DOS port
has a similar effect on Euphoria.  To keep DOS
compatiability the other 2 ports are more restricted.)

[snip]

>I hope i didnt misconceive here but, didn't Robert just
>say there was not going to be a (continue)?
>I would also guess that y'all can forget about the GOTO
>aswell.

I would come to that conclusion as well.

It's the old age problem ... you can't please everyone!

I have written a medium amount of code with Euphoria and
have yet come to the point where I thought a continue or
a goto were required.

Ray Smith

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3. Re: Critique <revisited>

> I have written a medium amount of code with Euphoria and
> have yet come to the point where I thought a continue or
> a goto were required.
>
> Ray Smith
>

Dont get me wrong but, I'd love to see
GOTO (jmp ahead)  = currently [routine_id] is all we have
REWIND (how far)  = currently [none]
etc....etc....

I have my own little list but, I know I'll never get these
perhaps cause, they can be immulated with current syntax
I personally dont know how you would do this but,
maybe Robert would comment.

After all, thats why I keep this Critique thing going.
euman

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