1. Ralf and other's critizim against me

Hello.

Guys, why are you critizising me every chance you get? Especially you,
Ralf. I thought you were gonna stop. Why are you guys picking on a 12
year old boy? I know I'm not as knowledgeable as you guys with coding,
but please stop critizising me and let's get to business, Euphoria.

- Nate

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2. Re: Ralf and other's critizim against me

>Guys, why are you critizising me every chance you get? Especially you,
>Ralf. I thought you were gonna stop. Why are you guys picking on a 12
>year old boy? I know I'm not as knowledgeable as you guys with coding,
>but please stop critizising me and let's get to business, Euphoria.


Nate, this wasnt meant to put you down. And as far as you asking for the
'nazis', I didnt respond negatively. But I recognize the feeling you prolly
have now. Ive had it too many times. But we really dont judge that fast on
such little information, "lighten up" is the term I would use. (Or as Pete
said to me once: "sometime you've got to learn to just shut-up")

But to explain the reason I commented on the tutorial. I really wasnt out to
get you Nate, I have little interest in that.

I once tried a complete tutorial for people who knew nothing about PC's. It
didnt work. I realized some parts just stick better with practise and
experience. Also a person (well... at least...I do) draws a number of
conclusion based upon a silly little experience with a program. Some of them
are hard to explain with word, were an experience would show you it in a
minute. Plus, time is a crucial thing as well. Dont go to fast. With an
tutorial from know-nothing to know-it-all this means, be extremely
*extremely* long.
My point is, there are much more interesting suggestions you've made worth
your effort. Since here, the effort will most likely be lost. You cant teach
some how to program Euphoria well unless they have some base in programming.
The complete learning procces done by experience, discussion, debugging,
trying-out, reading, reading and reading multiple perspectives on
programming and computers in general creates such a complex learning
procces, its most likely out of our grasp. You underestimate how much of
your knowledge and intellegence and esspecially time you, I and most people
here have used to grasp programming and the whole PC-world.

But Nate, do consider the opinions of people here when expressing opinions.
Logically, many people here, esspecially the more older ones, get a bad
taste in their mouth when you even use the word 'nazi' and looking at
history they have all right to do so. Im just assuming programming will
stimulate your intellengence upto the point where you too will disapprove
everything the word 'nazi' stands for.

Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen
nieuwen at xs4all.nl
UIN: 9389920

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3. Re: Ralf and other's critizim against me

>Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:29:24 -0400
>Reply-To:     Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS
<EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
>From:         Nate Brooman <nateb at LOG.ON.CA>
>Subject:      Ralf and other's critizim against me
>To:           EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
>
>Hello.
>
>Guys, why are you critizising me every chance you get? Especially you,
>Ralf. I thought you were gonna stop. Why are you guys picking on a 12
>year old boy? I know I'm not as knowledgeable as you guys with coding,
>but please stop critizising me and let's get to business, Euphoria.
>
>- Nate
>

... Hmm... good question. (seriously!) Maybe I'm too quiet, shy, or
something, but I'm 13, I came at this list with hope to be better than
what I was, make a few programs (one to be pay. rest are definatly free)
tell the same story of how I got to Euphoria once, (I did it quite a few
times, no?) and stuff like that. Maybe you were in this position too,
but my point is (to you, Nate) I am 13, I came in another direction, and
I was talked to as if I were an adult, and I acted as so. Dunno... this
question as dead ended to me...

-- "LEVIATHAN"

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