1. [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
- Posted by chris bensler <bensler at Mailops.Com>
Jan 20, 2001
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Last edited Jan 21, 2001
Is it me, or do the Pushbuttons not get depressed when using the keys? This
peeves
me.. I press the key, but the only way I know that I pressed the button is from
the
function that it performs, and that it gains focus. Is it supposed to be this
way? Or has
it not yet been implemented?
Chris
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2. Re: [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Henry" <ghenryca at HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
[snip]
> If anyone doubts that buttons are supposed to visually depress in Windows
> apps, just observe the Windows Calculator in operation for a couple of
> seconds (or less).
It seems to me that this application is an exception. All the other
Microsoft apps that I have don't show this sort of behaviour.
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Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
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3. Re: [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
Looks like my reply went directly to Derek rather than to the list.
To summarize:
On the contrary, most of the Micorsoft apps and other Windows apps on my
desktop exhibit visual depressing of buttons. Internet Explorer, M$ Works,
JASC Paint Shop Pro, Arachnophilia, all the programs I consider somwehat
useful and dependable and tend to use frequently.
The kinds of programs that fail to exhibit this behavior (and my impression
is such apps are quite rare) are "toy" freeware and cheap shareware apps.
I surely want my programs to look "professional" rather than like cheap
freeware/shareware. Unless Euphoria is and forever will be by intent just a
toy language, I urge that the UI libraries associated with it adopt a
professional look and feel, or should I say the facilities to produce such.
Eventually, I plan to get into creating skins. When that happens, I plan to
share my code. Doubtless this liebury will be integrable and compatible with
Win32Lib and/or WinMania. But don't expect anything along those lines
anytime soon; I have plenty of higher-priority work ahead of me.
Best regards to all,
George
----Original Message Follows----
From: Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU>
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 04:11:23 +1100
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Henry" <ghenryca at HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
[snip]
> If anyone doubts that buttons are supposed to visually depress in Windows
> apps, just observe the Windows Calculator in operation for a couple of
> seconds (or less).
It seems to me that this application is an exception. All the other
Microsoft apps that I have don't show this sort of behaviour.
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Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)
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4. Re: [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
Can I have a show of "hands" please.
Do I change win32lib so that when a hotkey for a button control is used, the
button gets focus and displays visualisation as if the mouse had pressed the
button?
Should this be optional, in other words, should this always be the case or
can the application writer be able to turn this effect off and on at will?
Should this only apply to "buttons"?
And finally, anybody know to do this? It would save me research time.
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Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)
5. Re: [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
You are correct, Derek.
"When hotkeys are used" - important keywords.
As a result of closer examination, I see that using keyboard shortcuts
typically *does not* result in the buttons that have the same functions
being visibly depressed, or receiving focus. Sorry about my earlier,
excessively hasty and inattentive-to-important-details report. "My bad."
The only thing I can say at this point is that Calculator at least
demonstrates that sometimes it IS appropriate and desirable to have buttons
react visually when another means is used to invoke the same functionality.
But this may be the exception rather than the rule. In that case,
1. it does not need to be mainstream functionality, but
2. it would be nice to have a convenient way to do it when required.
George
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Derek Parnell" <ddparnell at bigpond.com>
To: "George Henry" <ghenryca at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WIN] PushButtons aren't depressed when hotkeys are used
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 05:20:48 +1100
Hi George,
are you talking about using the mouse to click on these buttons or about
using hotkeys? I'm getting confused.
Also, most M$ apps that I use don't have buttons except in toolbars and they
aren't hotkeyed in the usualy sense. When I bring up a dialog box that DOES
have buttons, the hotkey presses don't change focus nor effect any
visualisation on the assocated buttons. I'm using Windows ME. What am I
missing here? I just can't see the effect you have been describing.
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Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)
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