1. A program at work...

Hi!

    I am about to start a project using Irvs' GUI DBF, and this is going
to be a bundle of business database (Timetables, workers
names/numbers/addresses, check managing (you know, the checks you get
after a couple weeks) etc,) personal database (people's
names/numbers/addresses, stock watching (whole separate thing; may need
the Winsock program) etc) and something else, but I forgot. This project
is going with my brother to a 4-H fair, and I'll see if he win's 1st
prize (heh, better than the kid a couple years ago who made a dumb
little game out of HyperCard, and won 1st) And then, _maybe_, sell it,
but then, I'm not quite sure how it will make out. What do
businesses/people ask for in a database? (YAY! five/four more days of
summer school, and I am passing... WHOO!)

thanx!

- "LEVIATHAN"

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2. Re: A program at work...

bonn ortloff wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>     I am about to start a project using Irvs' GUI DBF, and this is going
> to be a bundle of business database (Timetables, workers
> names/numbers/addresses, check managing (you know, the checks you get
> after a couple weeks) etc,) personal database (people's
> names/numbers/addresses, stock watching .....

Uh oh. I was afraid someone would actually want to USE the code.
Now I'll have to finish the listboxes and menus!
Drat.

Irv

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3. Re: A program at work...

>Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:39:14 -0400
>Reply-To:     Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS
<EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
>From:         Irv <irv at ELLIJAY.COM>
>Subject:      Re: A program at work...
>To:           EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
>
>bonn ortloff wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>>     I am about to start a project using Irvs' GUI DBF, and this is
going
>> to be a bundle of business database (Timetables, workers
>> names/numbers/addresses, check managing (you know, the checks you get
>> after a couple weeks) etc,) personal database (people's
>> names/numbers/addresses, stock watching .....
>
>Uh oh. I was afraid someone would actually want to USE the code.
>Now I'll have to finish the listboxes and menus!
>Drat.
>
>Irv
>

Oh, it's unfinished? whoa. gee, I never look carefully. Can I size
windows and put in custom fields + custom field lengths with it?

Tanx.

"LEVIATHAN"

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4. Re: A program at work...

bonn ortloff wrote:
>
> >Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:39:14 -0400
> >Reply-To:     Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS
> <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> >From:         Irv <irv at ELLIJAY.COM>
> >Subject:      Re: A program at work...
> >To:           EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> >
> >bonn ortloff wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >>     I am about to start a project using Irvs' GUI DBF, and this is

> >Uh oh. I was afraid someone would actually want to USE the code.
> >Now I'll have to finish the listboxes and menus!
> >Drat.
> >
> >Irv
> >
> Oh, it's unfinished? whoa. gee, I never look carefully. Can I size
> windows and put in custom fields + custom field lengths with it?
>
> Tanx.

Erm...

Resizeable windows - not yet. just dragable.  Custom field lengths,
sure.
What would your definition of "custom field" be?  Data validation,dates,
that kind of thing? If so, I think that is a long way off.

Alternate suggestion, more likely to get attention and win some kind of
award: look at the flashy full-motion graphing gizmo on my web page:
http://www.mindspring.com/~mountains -- Click on the guy with the
glasses)
If you add some math functions to that, It would make a big impression
on the judges.

Regards,

Irv

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5. Re: A program at work...

>bonn ortloff wrote:
>>

>> >bonn ortloff wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >>     I am about to start a project using Irvs' GUI DBF, and this is
>
>> >Uh oh. I was afraid someone would actually want to USE the code.
>> >Now I'll have to finish the listboxes and menus!
>> >Drat.
>> >
>> >Irv
>> >
>> Oh, it's unfinished? whoa. gee, I never look carefully. Can I size
>> windows and put in custom fields + custom field lengths with it?
>>
>> Tanx.
>
>Erm...
>
>Resizeable windows - not yet. just dragable.  Custom field lengths,
>sure.
>What would your definition of "custom field" be?  Data
validation,dates,
>that kind of thing? If so, I think that is a long way off.
>

Basically, define the field as something (integer, object, etc) define
it further (date, decimal, number, or text) set how long it can be max,
and what type of LE it is. (MLE, SLE) etc.

Plus, wouldn't resizable windows sorta suck, as everything would have to
be resized?

Oh, and can it go to 640x480? sorta irritating... and small... at
320x200... :)

Too bad I can't do this... my experience is great, my output is small...
Oh well... :(

Thanx Irv!

- "LEVIATHAN"


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6. Re: A program at work...

bonn ortloff wrote:
>
> >bonn ortloff wrote:
> >>>
> >> >bonn ortloff wrote:
> >> >>

....><8   <-scissors snipping
>
> Basically, define the field as something (integer, object, etc) define
> it further (date, decimal, number, or text) set how long it can be max,
> and what type of LE it is. (MLE, SLE) etc.

Ow!. Sounds like a good project for _______ (your name here)

> Plus, wouldn't resizable windows sorta suck, as everything would have to
> be resized?

Yes. But Dave Cuny has some kind of Window Metrics routine that is
supposed
to auto-place gadgets on a window, even if it is re-sized. I don't know
how
that works. I guess you would only want some gadets to resize - like a
listbox
or a display window - that would be nice. Text input and things like
that,
probably shouldn't.

> Oh, and can it go to 640x480? sorta irritating... and small... at
> 320x200... :)
Actually, in 320x200 mode everything is REALLY BIG, since the windows
are set,
like 300 wide x 200 high. Good for seeing across a room.
Half sizeing the boxes and buttons works, but the pix and text are still
BIG.

> Too bad I can't do this... my experience is great, my output is small...
> Oh well... :(
>
> Thanx Irv!
>
> - "LEVIATHAN"
>
Regards,
Irv

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7. Re: A program at work...

Irv mentioned:

>Yes. But Dave Cuny has some kind of Window Metrics routine that is
>supposed to auto-place gadgets on a window, even if it is re-sized. I
>don't know how that works. I guess you would only want some gadets to
>resize - like a listbox or a display window - that would be nice. Text
input
>and things like that, probably shouldn't.

WinMan has some rudimentary stuff based on the way X Windows and Tcl/Tk
handle resizing. The current implementation is a bit buggy. In general, you
divide space into parcels, and populate parcels with groups of controls and
sub-parcels. Each parcel and control has some rule as to handle space, such
as:

    - expand to fill all horizontal/vertical space
    - group all controls to the left/right/center
    - set the left/right/top/bottom margin to <n> pixels
    - attach to the owner's top/left/bottom/right
    - place at { <x>, <y> }
    - set size to { <tall>, <wide> }

and so on.

Resizing the window causes all the parcels to resize themselves according to
their rules, which in turn causes all the controls and parcels within each
resized parcels to resize, and so on.

It's pretty spiff, but a bit disconcerting. People in X Windows land are
used to this sort of behavior, but it's a bit alien to Windows/Mac
environments, where we've come to be expect our controls to be fairly
static.

One of the main reasons I'm looking at it for WinMan is not for the
resizing, but because it makes the layout more portable. But editable
resource files are an attractive option to that.

-- David Cuny

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