OpenEuphoria

2. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by Chris Burch <chriscrylex at aol.com> May 07, 2005
• 423 views

JasonDube wrote:
> 
> Why does it take so long to print a bunch of lines?
> 
> when I do:
> for i = 1 to 400 by 1 do
>      puts (1, "exampleexampleexampleexampleetcetcet")
> end for
> 
> it takes forever. Not that it is a very important point,or I would ever need a
> program
> to do this. but I just wanted to know why. I know it couldnt be because the
> interpreter
> is slow. It takes probably over a minute just to do that.
> 
> 
> I would make a good member of a large crowd :)
> 

Hi

Just tried that.

I think you need to change the valves in your computer 

Chris

http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm
http://uboard.proboards32.com/

4. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by akusaya at gmx.net May 07, 2005
• 428 views

If you use windows 98, console output for windows programs are VERYYYY
slow.

Use ex.exe instead of exw.exe, or use windows xp.



J> posted by: JasonDube <dubetyrant at hotmail.com>

J> Why does it take so long to print a bunch of lines?

J> when I do:
J> for i = 1 to 400 by 1 do
J>      puts (1, "exampleexampleexampleexampleetcetcet")
J> end for

J> it takes forever. Not that it is a very important point,or I
J> would ever need a program to do this. but I just wanted to know
J> why. I know it couldnt be because the interpreter is slow. It takes
J> probably over a minute just to do that.


J> I would make a good member of a large crowd :)

6. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by JasonDube <dubetyrant at hotmail.com> May 07, 2005
• 427 views

sorry.
I forgot to add that I was in graphics mode 18.So, this is the code verbatum.

--------------
include graphics.e
object gfx
gfx = graphics_mode(18)

for i = 1 to 400 by 1 do
   puts(1,"01234567890123456789012345678901234567890...etc to 80 characters")
end for
---------------

This is the code in totality. It takes about 87 seconds. I want to know why it
takes so long.

I have a pentium 1.4 gig with Windows 2000

Thanks & sorry for not including this detail ;(

I would make a good member of a large crowd :)

8. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by Alexander Toresson <alexander.toresson at gmail.com> May 07, 2005
• 432 views

Rob, why didn't aku's name become a link there?

Regards, Alexander Toresson

10. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by Bl@ckf|r3 <Bl4ckf1r3 at cjbn.net> May 07, 2005
• 436 views

JasonDube wrote:
> 
> sorry.
> I forgot to add that I was in graphics mode 18.So, this is the code verbatum.
> 
> --------------
> include graphics.e
> object gfx
> gfx = graphics_mode(18)
> 
> for i = 1 to 400 by 1 do
>    puts(1,"01234567890123456789012345678901234567890...etc to 80 characters")
> end for
> ---------------
> 
> This is the code in totality. It takes about 87 seconds. I want to know why it
> takes
> so long.

Heh...
I can display an 80 character line 1.e+1,000,000 times
in less than 1 milisecond on my TurboECNN AGIS 15B
running Euphoria for DOS under a WIN32 EMULATOR!!!

> 
> I have a pentium 1.4 gig with Windows 2000

Heh... Pentium... outdated electronic processor...

> 
> Thanks & sorry for not including this detail ;(
> 
> I would make a good member of a large crowd :)
> 

~~Bl@ckf|r3~~
"Redefining what Artificial 
Intelligence can do"

12. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by Jason Gade <jaygade at yahoo.com> May 07, 2005
• 423 views

JasonDube wrote:
> 
> sorry.
> I forgot to add that I was in graphics mode 18.So, this is the code verbatum.
> 
> --------------
> include graphics.e
> object gfx
> gfx = graphics_mode(18)
> 
> for i = 1 to 400 by 1 do
>    puts(1,"01234567890123456789012345678901234567890...etc to 80 characters")
> end for
> ---------------
> 
> This is the code in totality. It takes about 87 seconds. I want to know why it
> takes
> so long.
> 
> I have a pentium 1.4 gig with Windows 2000
> 
> Thanks & sorry for not including this detail ;(
> 
> I would make a good member of a large crowd :)
> 

Windows XP, 1.3 GHz Athlon XP-M, 256MB, 32MB S3 integrated video (this is a
laptop)

with ex.exe
console -- 0.06
fullscreen -- 0.93
mode 18 -- ~43 seconds

with exwc.exe
console -- 1.72
fullscreen 1.06

Windows XP, 1.84 GHz Athlon XP, 512MB, 128MB NVidia GeForce FX 5200 desktop

with ex.exe
console -- 0.06 and then 0 after subsequent runs
fullscreen -- 0.88
mode 18 -- ~57 seconds (that's a surprise...)

with exwc.exe
console -- 0.56
fullscreen -- 0.61 (was 0.9 consistently, then dropped to 0.61)

include graphics.e
include get.e

object gfx, junk, start

gfx = graphics_mode(18) -- comment this out for console/fullscreen tests

start = time()

for i = 1 to 400 by 1 do
puts(1,
    "01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789")
end for

? time() - start

junk = wait_key()

gfx = graphics_mode(-1)
-- end

Shows the uselessness of benchmarking ;^)

But the main thing is that mode 18 is a pixel graphics mode that is not
accelerated by a Windows driver, so the characters are mem-copied to the screen.

I was surprised that my laptop out-performed my desktop, though.

=====================================
Too many freaks, not enough circuses.

j.

14. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by Chris Burch <chriscrylex at aol.com> May 07, 2005
• 444 views

Hi

Re last post - duh (pressed send now straight away)

Yes, I tried the full code, and it is very slow - using win xp, and nvidia
graphics card.

Looks to me like this is an emulated video mode for win xp, that would
normally be direct access under dos, so its got to go through all the win xp
'safety', 'isolating the hardware from the stoopid user' bits and pieces.

Don't think you'll ever get this mode to work v well under xp.

Chris


http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm
http://uboard.proboards32.com/

16. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com> May 07, 2005
• 413 views

Alexander Toresson wrote:
> Rob, why didn't aku's name become a link there?

Apparently his e-mails to Topica do not have a display name,
just an e-mail address. 


Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

18. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by CoJaBo <CoJaBo_7th_EUforum_Address at CJBN.net> May 07, 2005
• 434 views

Bl@ckf|r3 wrote:
> 
> Chris Burch wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > <a
> > href="http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm">http://members.aol.com/chriscrylex/euphoria.htm</a>
> > <a href="http://uboard.proboards32.com/">http://uboard.proboards32.com/</a>
> > 
> 
> That is singlehandedly the greatest, most descriptive post of all time.

Ok... Do you have to follow me to EVERY site I visit?


> 
> ~~Bl@ckf|r3~~
Good...At least you're using your own account and not mine.

> "Redefining what Artificial 
> Intelligence can do"
>

20. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by Jason Gade <jaygade at yahoo.com> May 07, 2005
• 419 views
• Last edited May 08, 2005

JasonDube wrote:
> 
> Its nice to know that the same thing is showing up on others sytems, but I
> question
> whether its just because of windows because I can use draw_line and get a lot
> faster
> results. For example if I use:
> 
> for i = 1 to 45000
>   draw_line (1,{{1,i},{640,i}})
> end for
> 
> The result is instantaneous. 
> 
> So I think it has to do with the way text, specifically, is written to the
> screen in
> the various graphic modes.
>    
> so, go figure.
> 
> 
> I would make a good member of a large crowd :)
> 

I think that the slowdown is happening because of scrolling the graphics screen.
 Get putsxy from the archive and try it out.

I used this code on my laptop and got times of about 0.55.  No scrolling.

include graphics.e
include get.e
include putsxy.e

object gfx, junk, start
sequence txt, pos

gfx = graphics_mode(18)

txt =
"01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789"
pos = {0, 0}

start = time()

for i = 1 to 400 by 1 do
    putsxy(pos, txt, WHITE, BLACK, 'a')
    pos[2] = remainder(i * 16, 480)
end for

? time() - start

junk = wait_key()

gfx = graphics_mode(-1)
-- end

=====================================
Too many freaks, not enough circuses.

j.

22. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by JasonDube <dubetyrant at hotmail.com> May 07, 2005
• 457 views
• Last edited May 08, 2005

@Igor
I changed it to 100, so that would be 70000 iterations, I got the following
results:

FPrint() - 0.93 seconds
puts() - 10.6 seconds
putsxy () - 38.88 seconds

I like that! Thanks. I'll make sure to give credit whenever I can use it.
Awesome.

@Jason
Thanks again. Your right, it has something to do with the scrolling, it only
took a little research after your post to realize why putsxy and subsequent
libraries were written.



-----------
I would make a good member of a large crowd :)

24. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by John E <jwfe at talk21.com> May 09, 2005
• 452 views

don cole wrote:
> 
> Jason Gade wrote:
> > 
> > JasonDube wrote:
> > > 

<snippetty>

> > j.
> > 
> 
> So you speed freaks can brag, the above program yielded
>  6.96 seconds
>  Windows2000 
>  2.66Mhz box.
> 
> Don Cole
> 

Wow - is it hand-cranked?  :)

John

26. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by CoJaBo <CoJaBo_7th_EUforum_Address at CJBN.net> May 09, 2005
• 446 views
• Last edited May 10, 2005

Mario Steele wrote:
> 
> John E wrote:
> > 
> > don cole wrote:
> > > 
> > > Jason Gade wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > JasonDube wrote:
> > > > > 
> > 
> > <snippetty>
> > 
> > > > j.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > So you speed freaks can brag, the above program yielded
> > >  6.96 seconds
> > >  Windows2000 
> > >  2.66Mhz box.
> > > 
> > > Don Cole
> > > 
> > 
> > Wow - is it hand-cranked?  :)
> > 
> > John
> > 
> 
> I'm more then certian he means 2.66 GHz.  If it was 2.66 MHz, it'd proabbly
> take a half hour to display the text, even in Linux!

Apperantly noone noticed when I somehow got
a copy of Eu *2.6*.
http://www.listfilter.com/cgi-bin/esearch.exu?fromMonth=6&fromYear=1&toMonth=5&toYear=A&postedBy=CoJaBo&keywords=2.6
In the (un)wise words of Homer Simpson: D'OH!

> 
> Mario Steele
> <a
> href="http://enchantedblade.trilake.net">http://enchantedblade.trilake.net</a>
> Attaining World Dominiation, one byte at a time...
>

28. Re: speed of text display

• Posted by Al Getz <Xaxo at aol.com> May 10, 2005
• 435 views

Hi,

Couldnt help but chuckle a little here 
One of the first computer cpu boards i ever designed used a
very early model Intel cpu which clocked at 2Mhz, but that
was more than 20 years ago he he.  I think it was the 8080.
Geeze, time really flies...


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

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