1. Browsers_etc
- Posted by Beaumont Furniss <bfurniss at IHUG.CO.NZ>
Jul 01, 2000
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Last edited Jul 02, 2000
To All:
Recently I visited the Netscape site .
They now have a version 4.06 , for Win3.1 .
I'm having considerable difficulty obtaining this from their site.
Does anyone know of an alternate location , perhaps a ftp site.
If so ; please give the complete address. The file may start with cb16
or cc16 .
I'm unfamiliar with search engines and doubt the value of these in the
present instance.
I known that some Euphoria programmers are investigating the topic
of browsers , with a view to implementing some features through Euphoria.
To Pete Eberlein :
Sorry if I still haven't quite got your name right.
The spheres that you draw have about two light sources , is there a
way to get multiple reflections ; i.e. one sphere being reflected in
another .. etc. Are you , occassionally , upgrading asm.e ?
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2. Re: Browsers_etc
re: netscape browser
i am using 4.71 downloaded from netscapes own site. cb32d47.exe
no credit card needed only some info such as email, mailing address
and promise not to give copies away. but i got the 128 bit encryption
version, it may not be needed for general version.
version 6 is due out soon, version 5 skipped. all i heard is it is 1/2 the
size.
also the browser has been available on cd that comes with some british
computer magazines. PC USER or PC FORMAT or another magazine called
Maximum pc.
good luck
rudy
3. Re: Browsers_etc
This url will prolly wrap in your browser, just reassemble it or goto
http://www.securiteam.com
and find the netscape article.
Kat
On 16 Jul 2000, at 7:14, Rudy Toews wrote:
> re: netscape browser
>
> i am using 4.71 downloaded from netscapes own site. cb32d47.exe
> no credit card needed only some info such as email, mailing address
> and promise not to give copies away. but i got the 128 bit encryption
> version, it may not be needed for general version.
>
> version 6 is due out soon, version 5 skipped. all i heard is it is 1/2 the
> size.
>
> also the browser has been available on cd that comes with some british
> computer magazines. PC USER or PC FORMAT or another magazine called
> Maximum pc.
>
> good luck
> rudy
>
4. Re: Browsers_etc
thanks for the message about smartdownload.
i wasn't using it but one time. i had heard something but not much facts.
re: version 4.02
i had been using it when i got a message from my financial instituion that
the security encryption certificates expired at 12/31/1999 11:59 p.m.
so it may have been deleted off netscapes site.
so an upgrade was required, i went to version 4.71. 16mb download
approximately the time was 2 1/2 hours with a 33kb modem. i have since
upgraded my system from a dx4 to k7 550mhz 56kb modem so the speed should be
better(?).
i currently implementing the use of an email program called Poco.
i will use it to extract data from automatic emails or subcribed to emails.
also can use it to send auto emails in response to emails with certain
keywords in the message. it has a pretty good scripting language .
rudy
5. Re: Browsers_etc
This sounds promising , I'd still prefer a DOS based browser as
less resources are required and there's less intervening software to
contend with.
I'm assuming cb32d47.exe is for 32-bit Windows , I shall have a
look at Netscapes site just to make certain
Arachne , now have v1.64 , that might be comparable with 4.71 ,
though not readily available ; this runs from DOS or LINUX.
On 2000-07-16 rltoews at PANGEA.CA said:
rl>re: netscape browser
rl>i am using 4.71 downloaded from netscapes own site. cb32d47.exe
rl>no credit card needed only some info such as email, mailing address
rl>and promise not to give copies away. but i got the 128 bit
rl>encryption version, it may not be needed for general version.
rl>version 6 is due out soon, version 5 skipped. all i heard is it is
rl>1/2 the size.
rl>also the browser has been available on cd that comes with some
rl>british computer magazines. PC USER or PC FORMAT or another
rl>magazine called Maximum pc.
rl>good luck
rl>rudy
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6. Re: Browsers_etc
<< you wrote >>
netscapes version 6 is due out soon, version 5 skipped. all i heard is it is
1/2 the size.
Take a look at ASPack, I think that it's possibly just a packed
executable........MAYBE?
ASPack can be found @
http://www.aspack.com
Much like RDS uses NV / UPX to decrease the size of Euphoria made
executables.
UPX can be found @
http://upx.tsx.org
euman at bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beaumont Furniss" <bfurniss at IHUG.CO.NZ>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: Browsers_etc
> This sounds promising , I'd still prefer a DOS based browser as
> less resources are required and there's less intervening software to
> contend with.
> I'm assuming cb32d47.exe is for 32-bit Windows , I shall have a
> look at Netscapes site just to make certain
>
> Arachne , now have v1.64 , that might be comparable with 4.71 ,
> though not readily available ; this runs from DOS or LINUX.
>
> On 2000-07-16 rltoews at PANGEA.CA said:
> rl>re: netscape browser
> rl>i am using 4.71 downloaded from netscapes own site. cb32d47.exe
> rl>no credit card needed only some info such as email, mailing address
> rl>and promise not to give copies away. but i got the 128 bit
> rl>encryption version, it may not be needed for general version.
> rl>version 6 is due out soon, version 5 skipped. all i heard is it is
> rl>1/2 the size.
> rl>also the browser has been available on cd that comes with some
> rl>british computer magazines. PC USER or PC FORMAT or another
> rl>magazine called Maximum pc.
> rl>good luck
> rl>rudy
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive
>
7. Re: Browsers_etc
If you are unfamiliar with search engines, perhaps you'll be limiting
yourself to the usual and most popular. Perhaps you should try
www.northernlight.com and www.alltheweb.com.
Good fast download sites I frequently visit: www.tucows.com, www.zdnet.com,
www.download.com. They all have good internal searches.
A very complete ftp site: garbo.uwasa.fi.
btw, there's a 16-bit Netscape 4.08 now (at least zdnet has it).
Gerardo E. Brandariz
----- Original Message -----
From: Beaumont Furniss <bfurniss at IHUG.CO.NZ>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 2:51 AM
Subject: Browsers_etc
> To All:
>
> Recently I visited the Netscape site .
> They now have a version 4.06 , for Win3.1 .
> I'm having considerable difficulty obtaining this from their site.
> Does anyone know of an alternate location , perhaps a ftp site.
> If so ; please give the complete address. The file may start with cb16
> or cc16 .
>
> I'm unfamiliar with search engines and doubt the value of these in the
> present instance.
> I known that some Euphoria programmers are investigating the topic
> of browsers , with a view to implementing some features through
Euphoria.
>
>
> To Pete Eberlein :
>
> Sorry if I still haven't quite got your name right.
>
> The spheres that you draw have about two light sources , is there a
> way to get multiple reflections ; i.e. one sphere being reflected in
> another .. etc. Are you , occassionally , upgrading asm.e ?
>
>
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive
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8. Re: Browsers_etc
- Posted by Rudy Toews <rltoews at PANGEA.CA>
Jul 20, 2000
-
Last edited Jul 21, 2000
good evening,
i had found a program called 'irover' which gives a user a choice from quite
a few search engines via a drop down list.
it also eliminates the pagination of your hits, you can even choose 1000
hits if that many are needed.
http://www.webattack.com/
i believe this is where i remember getting it from or maybe
www.moochers.com. i had found both websites in the same time frame.
rudy
9. Re: Browsers_etc
I do tend to use yahoo , as a search engine, at the moment ; I'm
unfamiliar with northernlight and alltheweb. I'm always looking for
good ftp sites , this browser is quite good at downloading files ,
there might even be a more recent version.
I asked a sysop at a local BBS to locate the WIN 3.xx version of
Netscape 4.08 ; he managed this , I d/l'ed this awhile ago , only
to discover that I needn't more disk space and to re-install my
WIN 3.xx , which may require an updated video driver to function
adequately with Net 4.08 [16-bit] .
Arachne 1.65 may be out there somewhere as a free download ,
pity I wasn't able to get the 32-bit , dos Watcom compiler for
C/C++ .
When I do a search through yahoo , when the traffic isn't to heavy,
the result almost seems to be instantaneous ; perhaps the local ISP
caches a lot of the pages from their site.
On 2000-07-20 EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU said:
EU>If you are unfamiliar with search engines, perhaps you'll be
EU>limiting yourself to the usual and most popular. Perhaps you should
EU>try www.northernlight.com and www.alltheweb.com.
EU>Good fast download sites I frequently visit: www.tucows.com, www.
EU>zdnet.com, www.download.com. They all have good internal searches.
EU>A very complete ftp site: garbo.uwasa.fi.
EU>btw, there's a 16-bit Netscape 4.08 now (at least zdnet has it).
EU>Gerardo E. Brandariz
EU>----- Original Message -----
EU>Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 2:51 AM
EU>> To All:
EU>> Recently I visited the Netscape site .
EU>> They now have a version 4.06 , for Win3.1 .
EU>> I'm having considerable difficulty obtaining this from their
EU>>site. Does anyone know of an alternate location , perhaps a
EU>>ftp site. If so ; please give the complete address. The file
EU>>may start with cb16 or cc16 .
EU>> I'm unfamiliar with search engines and doubt the value of
EU>>these in the present instance.
EU>> I known that some Euphoria programmers are investigating the
EU>>topic of browsers , with a view to implementing some features
EU>through Euphoria.
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10. Re: Browsers_etc
If you are searching for a specific FTP file the fastest search
to use is here: http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/?form=medium
11. Re: Browsers_etc
On 2000-07-23 gebrandariz at yahoo.com said:
ge>----- Original Message -----
ge>Cc: <gebrandariz at yahoo.com>
ge>Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:07 AM
ge>> I do tend to use yahoo , as a search engine, at the moment ; I'm
ge>> unfamiliar with northernlight and alltheweb.
ge>Give them a try, you won't regret it. Northern Light, in particular,
ge>is very good for "natural language" searches, as in "fast ftp sites
ge>for programming freeware" (I actually tried it; you should see the
ge>first contents page, and the "Custom Search Folders" it made up for
ge>selective browsing).
ge>I'm not deprecating other search engines. Most are at least quite
ge>adequate. I actually downloaded the new GO Express Search
ge>(infoseek), and use it frequently. But the two I quoted are my
ge>favorites by far, for results, speed and presentation.
I don't see much of the page layout with this browser , most of the
time I turnoff the graphics content completely and selectively d/l to
a particular directory ; capturing the *.htm pages and associated
images that I'm interested in for offline viewing with the html 4.0
capabilities of arachne 1.40b. To include the images effectively with
the saved *.htm I sometimes need to edit the <img src ....>
portion of the file.
ge>> this browser is quite good at downloading files ,
ge>Actually, I use the browser (mostly MSIE and Netscape, but also
ge>StarOffice -I'm getting to like it) to search and ...well, browse.
ge>But once I have the ftp address down pat, I use Christian Ghisler's
ge>Windows Commander (www.ghisler.com). In case you don't know it,
ge>it's a remote descendant of a Norton Commander clone, with a lot of
ge>functions and excellent performance. I just open a window to a
ge>directory in my HD, and another to the ftp site's, and then it's up
ge>and down their directories, not just copying but also viewing and
ge>even searching for text inside their files.
ge>Good hunting.
ge>Gerardo E. Brandariz
My Windows 3.xx isn't quite up to this , though the 16-bit netscape 4.08
may eventually function , perhaps , erratically ; with some coaxing.
This browser , Netscape, runs from 16-bit DOS , there was a website for
this , however I can't get any response from them at netscape.net , I
think.
Seems that once you connect with the most useful search engine you can
locate most anything in the world , as if this was just an extension
of your own file directories ; furthermore the access times can appear
to be the same as if you were looking at your own local directories.
This may sound common place to you , however I recall trying to use
an rs-232 link for inter-computer communication , quite a few years ago
now , and was annoyed at how slow the link was ; the other computer was
on the same campus.
I'm not keen on museum pieces either , just that some things , like
32-bit compilers and standards , like ANSI , take so long to develop
into useful tools.
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