1. Spam

OK nobody loves spam, but let's practice some tolerance.  Greg has no
history of spamming us and apologized for the accidental post.  Quoting the
original post in the apology was ill-judged but not ill-intended.  Can we
let it go and not have a flame war over this?

--   Mike Nelson

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2. Re: Spam

> ---------------------- Information from the mail
header -----------------------
> Sender:       Euphoria Programming for MS-DOS
<EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Poster:       Michael Nelson <mike-nelson-ODAAT at WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> Subject:      Spam
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> OK nobody loves spam, but let's practice some tolerance.  Greg has no
> history of spamming us and apologized for the accidental post.  Quoting
the
> original post in the apology was ill-judged but not ill-intended.  Can we
> let it go and not have a flame war over this?
>
> --   Mike Nelson
>
    I second that motion.  I agree.  Let's not flame.

        Lucius L. Hilley III
        lhilley at cdc.net
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3. Re: Spam

> OK nobody loves spam, but let's practice some tolerance.  Greg has no
> history of spamming us and apologized for the accidental post.  Quoting
the
> original post in the apology was ill-judged but not ill-intended.  Can we
> let it go and not have a flame war over this?

Tolerance rules.

Ralf.

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4. Re: Spam

Lucius L. Hilley III wrote:

>>
>> OK nobody loves spam, but let's practice some tolerance.  Greg has no
>> history of spamming us and apologized for the accidental post.  Quoting
>the
>> original post in the apology was ill-judged but not ill-intended.  Can we
>> let it go and not have a flame war over this?
>>
>> --   Mike Nelson
>>
>    I second that motion.  I agree.  Let's not flame.
>
>        Lucius L. Hilley III

Saw second post of same length as first and fired before reading. My
apologies. Sent personal note to Greg of same. Must say that I don't
know of Greg and had no history to go on. As some of you well know,
I ordinarily take anything personal offline. I don't consider spam
personal, though I take it very personally. Spam interferes with the
usage of this list...more so for those who must use the digest. I am
perfectly happy to receive rants/discussions of almost any length on
the subject at hand...Euphoria.

Everett L.(Rett) Williams
rett at gvtc.com

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5. Spam

The filter seems to be slipping... "Cecil Calixtus" and "Sita Peiris" - all
spam.

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6. Re: Spam

Hi there,


We've had this problem for a while now too at another web site
that i moderate.  The posters keep posting ads and it doesnt help
to block their nick as they simply register with another nick
and do the same thing and have the b***s to post the same darn post
with the same stupid link to the same stupid site!!
After deleting several hundred posts and more than 20 posts per
day something more had to be done as it takes time to do all this work.
To deal with this, the admins are making the registration process
more 'machine unfriendly' by making the user type information
read on the reg page where the information is typed using a very
strange and varied font, something (presumably) a computer program
can not do.


Take care,
Al

E boa sorte com sua programacao Euphoria!


My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

 From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
 but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."

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7. Re: Spam

Al Getz wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> 
> We've had this problem for a while now too at another web site
> that i moderate.  The posters keep posting ads and it doesnt help
> to block their nick as they simply register with another nick
> and do the same thing and have the b***s to post the same darn post
> with the same stupid link to the same stupid site!!
> After deleting several hundred posts and more than 20 posts per
> day something more had to be done as it takes time to do all this work.
> To deal with this, the admins are making the registration process
> more 'machine unfriendly' by making the user type information
> read on the reg page where the information is typed using a very
> strange and varied font, something (presumably) a computer program
> can not do.

You are talking about Captchas, aren't you? Here is some more information:
http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/

Also interesting (probably easier to use for humans, and harder to
"use" for machines than Captchas) are "Mawchas". I only have a
German page at hand (look for the cross on the picture and click at
it with the mouse):
http://nögel.de/mawcha/index.php

Regards,
   Juergen

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8. Re: Spam

Jeremy Peterson wrote:
> The filter seems to be slipping... "Cecil Calixtus" and "Sita Peiris" - all
> spam.

I'll tighten things up ...

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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9. Re: Spam

Juergen Luethje wrote:
> 
> Al Getz wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > 
> > We've had this problem for a while now too at another web site
> > that i moderate.  The posters keep posting ads and it doesnt help
> > to block their nick as they simply register with another nick
> > and do the same thing and have the b***s to post the same darn post
> > with the same stupid link to the same stupid site!!
> > After deleting several hundred posts and more than 20 posts per
> > day something more had to be done as it takes time to do all this work.
> > To deal with this, the admins are making the registration process
> > more 'machine unfriendly' by making the user type information
> > read on the reg page where the information is typed using a very
> > strange and varied font, something (presumably) a computer program
> > can not do.
> 
> You are talking about Captchas, aren't you? Here is some more information:
> <a href="http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/">http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/</a>
> 
> Also interesting (probably easier to use for humans, and harder to
> "use" for machines than Captchas) are "Mawchas". I only have a
> German page at hand (look for the cross on the picture and click at
> it with the mouse):
> <a href="http://n">http://n</a>ögel.de/mawcha/index.php
> 
> Regards,
>    Juergen

hi Juergen,


Yes, That's it!
I guess the theory here is that if a computer can generate it then
a computer can decode it, knowing the generator algorithm beforehand.
The key here is "knowing the generator".  It has to be complex enough
to make reverse engineering very difficult.  I dont know for sure
how practical this is, but im sure it's of some use as it will at
least takes care of some of the 'less knowledgable' computer driven
posters.

This gets kind of interesting in that a computer program has to
try to determine if it is dealing with another computer program,
as opposed to a human who is trying to tell.  The more clever the
algorithm the harder it will be for the 'impostor' to get by without
detection.  Then there is also the time line theory...will the impostor
be able to keep up with the changes employed by the generator/detector?
To do so it would have to be incredibly adaptive, not just simply be
able to solve those problems which have been known for N weeks.


Take care,
Al

E boa sorte com sua programacao Euphoria!


My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

 From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
 but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."

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10. Spam

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Hello all,

Has anyone written a SPAM utility in Euphoria?

I found a pretty nice FREE utility here:=20
http://keir.net/k9.html

Euman
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